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House Iraq Resolution--what will it do?
POSTED BY: Causal
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 01:41
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Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:25 PM
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Originally posted by kaneman:
If the dems really didn't support this war, if they really wanted to pull out, if it wasn't just a bunch of lip service to their tree-hugging limp wristed constituency...couldn't they just DE-FUND the war? Don't they control the purse strings? Just a thought........
I don't think they've gotten to that yet, with all the debate about debating about the resolution, and debating about voting on the resolution, and debating about the resolution...
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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:41 AM
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Originally posted by Malbadinlatin:Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
I think it is a foregone conclusion that history will pin the failure of both these missions on the Political leadership involved. Bush, Clinton, BushII, and all the others in a supporting cast.
Bush1? What? for not going in and taking over the country when he was there? And Clinton...to blame? Educate me please, seriously, I'm not being sarcastic.
"You can believe your eyes...or you can believe me." -Groucho Marx
Well, I'll try to be brief
When I started with Bush1, Reagan was President, Bush1 was the force behind much of the days foreign policy, and the US was backing Saddam against Iran in a war of aggression Iran started. Despite ( while being quite aware ) of Saddams many actions against his own people, the US continued to support his regime... As they supported the Shah years earlier in Iran when they helped overthrow an elected government in Iran.
Bush1 / Gulfwar
While freeing Kuwait was a just cause, the US faltered badly in the post-invasion diplomacy. The main reason the coalition forces did not invade Iraq, is if that had of been the objective there would have been no coalition. After Kuwait had been secured there was no plan, other than to isolate Iraq. Action without objective. If they had of publicly stated the embargos would continue until reparations were paid, or until Saddam stepped down... fine. But that did not happen, and led to further problems...
Clinton,
Continued the embargos despite the objections of ... everyone but Britain, this alone held a body count in Iraq for over a million deaths. This leads to making the US more unpopular in the region, etc
Bush II, well what more can be said. :)
The disaster began long before BushII, by bad US policy, the weak UN veto mechanism not able to resist the US, no strong opposing force to bolster the oppostion ( fall of the Soviet Union )
" Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack
Run to the hills run for your lives "
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