The Third HEROES thread

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:41 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Ok. Did anyone else notice that when Hiro's dad, played by George Takai, was getting into his limo at the end of their meeting, the license plate number was NCC-1701?

Now I have to itune the episode to see for myself.

Kudos to Stoweaway’s husband for pinning the daddy Nathan thing. Of course this makes Peter Claire’s uncle, which doesn’t necessarily forbid a relationship, but it does make it gross.

As for the age, Claire is 15; Nathan is probably late thirties-early forties. That puts Nathan in is twenties when Claire was conceived. Did Nathan “die” in the fire too? Or was Claire’s mom just one of Nathan’s extramarital exploits or a college sweetheart?

I really prefer Eccleston as Dr. Who.

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GRIZWALD

Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:42 PM

Geezer, that's wonderful.

Question: Has Christopher Eccleston's character been given a name yet, that we have heard? Or is he simply the Nameless, Homeless, Friendless One? I'm getting a little tired of calling him "Chris."

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CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, February 6, 2007 3:13 PM

The invisible guy is called Claude, following the tradition of British men having French names (paging Jean-Luc Picard. . .).

It looks like Peter is going to be a mirror-image of Sylar, which is going to make for a cool showdown when they meet.

A little math suggests that Claire's mom was 20 when Claire was born ("21 year old woman died in a fire, along with her 18-month old baby"). Claire is (about) 16 now, so her mom is 36, which is a good approximate age for Nathan (we can assume that he and Claire's mom were about the same age when they were together). Peter seems quite a bit younger, though.

Ando was great this ep.

"I think she's starting to like me."
". . . Wha?!?"

And props to Hiro for taking the traditional "young Japanese man who rebels against, but secretly desires, his father's approval" and actually playing it cool. Though I doubt this is the last we've seen of the Nakamuras.

Yeah, I feel there's a missing chapter between Nikki/Jessica's release and her scene with Micah. DL wouldn't have stood for that, and we haven't seen anything that would take him out of the picture.

Speaking of that family, the new comic ( http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novel_019.shtml) spotlights everybody's favourite technopath, as Micah pwns some bullies.

Also, check out Hiro:

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AMYEL

Tuesday, February 6, 2007 4:49 PM

Adrian Pasdar is 41, which is doable for his character's age, and he can play several years younger as well. Milo Ventimiglia is 29, though I think at some point in the show Peter was described as being 26. So there's a 10-15 year age difference between the brothers. It certainly shows in their relationship, since Nathan bosses Peter around like he's a big-brother/father-figure combo.

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, February 6, 2007 4:52 PM

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Nathan bosses Peter around like he's a big-brother/father-figure combo.

And a pompous ass.

Never underestimate the "pompous ass" factor.

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BROWNCOAT1

Wednesday, February 7, 2007 2:17 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Ok. Did anyone else notice that when Hiro's dad, played by George Takai, was getting into his limo at the end of their meeting, the license plate number was NCC-1701?

Damn! I missed that. Cool props to ST though.

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REGINAROADIE

Wednesday, February 7, 2007 2:37 PM

I'll have to look for that too.

Speaking of George Takei, I was more impressed with his guest stint on HEROES than Eccleston. For an hour, he totally made me forget about Sulu. Takei in real life is kind of a cheeseball, like Shatner. But he was able to totally transcend that and be a total badass. And Hiro's sly way of passing off his responsibility to the company onto his more qualified sister was genius in his own way. And I love his father's last line.

"I never should have read you those stories."

Now we have to wait for Stan Lee's upcoming cameo as a bus driver.

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NAFLM

Thursday, February 8, 2007 2:52 AM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
The invisible guy is called Claude, following the tradition of British men having French names (paging Jean-Luc Picard. . .).

Perhaps, but I think that this might be a reference to Claude Rains, who played the original Invisible Man.

And is it invisibility or slightly more. Nobody seems to notice them talking or yelling on the street, but Claude did cover Peter's mouth when he "escaped" from Nathan.

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, February 8, 2007 4:01 AM

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Originally posted by naflm:
Perhaps, but I think that this might be a reference to Claude Rains, who played the original Invisible Man.

And is it invisibility or slightly more. Nobody seems to notice them talking or yelling on the street, but Claude did cover Peter's mouth when he "escaped" from Nathan.

Dramatic license probably, but it might be inferred that Peter’s replication of another superhuman’s capability has a latency prior to full inception or a period of continuity during which the ability is not fully acquired. It might also be that Claude and Peter are audible, but it did not seem as if anyone on the street reacted to their voices.

Also I ituned the episode and saw the NCC-1701 on Mr. Nakamura’s limo. Of course the dash was really a tinny New York state, so technically it was NCC “tinny New York state” 1701.

I thought Takei did a great job with the Japanese. Unlike Oka, who was born in Japan, he is Japanese only by heritage.

It's refreshing that Heroes uses Japanese with English subtitles. I only wish they had taken a similar approach with Mohinder, who should never have been lecturing in English to an Indian class in India.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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SINGATE

Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:53 AM

For the first time I can remember I wasn't particularly impressed with the Hiro/Ando story arc. Maybe it's because they never seemed to be on the same page in this episode. I did enjoy the extra nod to George Takei's appearance. Hiro getting called Sulu was priceless.

Looks like Mr. Bennet may have had his wife's memory erased one too many times. Wonder if this will be the last straw for Claire. Her "real" mom played her like a fiddle, that scene with her listening outside the window was kinda sad. That woman is nothing but a trailer trash con artist.

Now that Niki has her new assignment I think it would be cool to see Claire come to the rescue. Showing up just in time to take a bullet for her new daddy. I'm still trying to figure out why Parkman didn't wait until the elevator doors opened then put two Jessica, one for each personality. Thankfully the writers didn't kill him off. Seeing him walk off with the diamonds was a bit disconcerting. Up until then he struck me as the consumate good guy.

That new ability Sylar took is interesting. Does it work on any solid object or just the inanimate kind?

I'm thinking Issac will buy the farm next week.

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