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How to Write a Conspiracy Theory

POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 20:10
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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:16 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:


and youll constantly come up with excuses why everthing happens merely by accident, with no motive or cause.











Never said that, chum, but keep digging, we can still see you.

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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:24 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
Your problem AntiMason is that you think your conspiracy is the truth and the real world view the distraction.



a lot of prominant people have spoken about it, including people like Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson.. i guess theyre crazy too? *(or just distractions)

Aldous Huxley (Brave New World)
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"A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude. To make them love it is the task assigned, in present-day totalitarian states, to ministries of propaganda, newspaper editors and schoolteachers.... The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth."


Winston Churchill
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"From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."


Benjamin Disraeli (first British Prime Minister)
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"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes. The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with Secret Societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans."


Felix Frankfurter(Supreme Court Justice 1952)
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"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."


Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."


Albert Pike (33° Freemason)
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Fictions are necessary to the people, and the Truth becomes deadly to those who are not strong enough to contemplate it in all its brilliance. In fact, what can there be in common between the vile multitude and sublime wisdom? The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason.









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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:05 PM

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Originally posted by antimason:
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Originally posted by Fletch2:
Your problem AntiMason is that you think your conspiracy is the truth and the real world view the distraction.



a lot of prominant people have spoken about it, including people like Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson.. i guess theyre crazy too? *(or just distractions)




Well since you don't actually quote them how can I tell? The ones you do quote all appear to be out of context, so we really have no idea what they are talking about. I'm sure if you fillet "Mein Kampf" you can make Hitler sound like he loves all the Jewish people. I haven't found any of the quotes you posted in larger context, just the same ones on the same foil hat websites. However from a good general knowledge of the people and times we can try and infer the original context.

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Aldous Huxley (Brave New World)
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"A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude. To make them love it is the task assigned, in present-day totalitarian states, to ministries of propaganda, newspaper editors and schoolteachers.... The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth."





Says nothing except the truth about totalitarian states. You may wish to see America as such a state because it's consistant with your delusion. I do not and I doubt that most of the people here, even the ones that deeply loath the current administration, would consider America a totalitarian state.

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Winston Churchill
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"From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."





You attribute this to Churchill but even the site you took these quotes from (one of the sites that obviously tell you what to think) doesn't give a proper reference, just saying "the London Press 1922." Assuming that the attribution is correct (and a lot of made up stuff gets attributed to Churchill) then this was probably in relation to the British governments deliberations on recognising Soviet Russia which Churchill opposed. Churchill had a knack in speeches of linking current events with historical ones. What is not being said here is that one "conspiracy" existed since Sparticus but that a line of thought continued from then.

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Benjamin Disraeli (first British Prime Minister)
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"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes. The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with Secret Societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans."





Again can not find a none tinfoil source for this. However, both this quote and the one from Churchill come from men that were running the largest Empire the world had ever known, one that your pall Priate News STILL thinks runs the world. Yet the quotes are obviously not talking about THEIR side but about those that oppose them. That doesn't strike me as supporting your case. In as much as one world government has ever existed, it was run from Whitehall by these men. Unlike the UN, which can't manage to do anything these men commanded

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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:36 PM

i quoted Thomas Jefferson in a previous post, where he warned of central banks and how they enslave populaces... its the same context as the other quotes, the same point, which is a global conspiracy.. but lets be frank: nothing will change your mind, because youre not ready for the truth; we'll have to wait for a global government before it becomes clear to you that all this information wasnt just forged and concocted for enterainment value

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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:13 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:

Well since you don't actually quote them how can I tell? The ones you do quote all appear to be out of context, so we really have no idea what they are talking about. I'm sure if you fillet "Mein Kampf" you can make Hitler sound like he loves all the Jewish people.



because i guess its normal for a president to admit to the existence of a shadow government.. im sure it was just taken out of context though.. in fact, its all been taken out of context, what we missed was the "of course this is just speculation" portion of the quotes

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Says nothing except the truth about totalitarian states. You may wish to see America as such a state because it's consistant with your delusion.


im trying to prevent such a state from being ushered in by people like you, who refuse to accept the admitted threat of a global government

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I do not and I doubt that most of the people here, even the ones that deeply loath the current administration, would consider America a totalitarian state.


i frankly dont care WHAT people consider to be happening in their own minds... no one will address the FACT that we are ruled by an illegal central bank.. which was strictly forbid by the constitution.. and which is the cause, and proof of this global conspiracy. apparently no one here has yet to investigate it themselves, since the evidence is irrefutable

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You attribute this to Churchill but even the site you took these quotes from (one of the sites that obviously tell you what to think) doesn't give a proper reference, just saying "the London Press 1922." Assuming that the attribution is correct (and a lot of made up stuff gets attributed to Churchill) then this was probably in relation to the British governments deliberations on recognising Soviet Russia which Churchill opposed.


then you do not realize that the central banks created communism to be the antogonist to capitalism, and that western elite are, and always have been behind communism; but you could easily find that out for youself

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Again can not find a none tinfoil source for this. However, both this quote and the one from Churchill come from men that were running the largest Empire the world had ever known, one that your pall Priate News STILL thinks runs the world. Yet the quotes are obviously not talking about THEIR side but about those that oppose them. That doesn't strike me as supporting your case.


you just dont get it.. LOOK INTO THE CENTRAL BANKS< FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! i will not continue to repeat myself because you want to live in a fantasy land

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Absolutely, nobody here even questions that, just follow the money.


but who creates the money? the central banks, so then what is their motive?? global government, its really not that incomprehendable

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Capitalist economy which means that the people that own the capital have a disproportionate influence over events than those that don't. Case in point. Back in the early 1990's just after the Gingrich revolution the BBC looked into party fundraising in the US. What it found was that prior to the Republicans taking control of Congress Democrats collected the most money, after the change it was Republicans. Now think on that a moment. If a business made contributions based purely on ideological reasons -- say the board thought that Republican's economic policy was more "pro business" -- you would expect them to keep making contributions to that party irrespective of if it was in power or not. In fact if you truly believe in their platform then you're more likely to give them more when they are out of power, because you believe in their agenda and want to see it enacted. So from an ideological viewpoint there should be no change in funding, you would only expect the money to flow mainly to the encombant if those contributing believed that they would get favours for it. After all, the opposition is not really in a possition to force through legislation beneficial to you no matter what thei

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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
The problem is that anything can be assumed without evidence.

I assume you are a rubber duck, discuss.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
The problem is that anything can be assumed without evidence.

I assume you are a rubber duck, discuss.




Are you infering he's yellow?

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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
Are you infering he's yellow?

I'm infering he's a French-Capitalist-Democratic-Duck. Long time enemy of the British-Commie-Nazi-Jews.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:10 PM

just another, in a string of recent news articles, continuing to blow the lid off the 9/11 lies

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2011845,00.html

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Response: Don't believe the official 'conspiracy' theory

We have to ask who stood to gain the most from the appalling events of 9/11

Tim Sparke
London Guardian
Tuesday, February 13, 2007

George Monbiot's explicit attack on the film Loose Change (A 9/11 conspiracy virus is sweeping the world ..., February 6) has no basis in fact. While we accept that there are flaws in the current version of the film, we stand by its overarching theme that the official "conspiracy" theory of 9/11, constructed in the hours, days, weeks and months after 9/11, is false.

In uncritically endorsing the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) report, Monbiot neglects to say that the collapse mechanism for the entire World Trade Centre building was never documented by NIST - it didn't see it as its job. Additionally, in accepting that the towers collapsed at virtually free-fall speed ("the weight of the collapsing top storeys generated a momentum the rest of the building could not arrest"), Monbiot shows no awareness that this explanation violates the law of conservation of momentum.

Monbiot also appears oblivious to NIST's failure to explain that, although fire could not have melted any steel, there were pools of molten metal under the rubble, and these pools remained molten for weeks after the collapse; that dozens of people, including firefighters, news reporters and fleeing victims, all reported massive explosions; the clear video evidence of explosions taking place; that virtually all the concrete was pulverised into tiny particles; the apparent disintegration of the central steel core; and the destruction of all the evidence from America's biggest crime scene, which was covertly transported to Asian and African shores before any forensic examination could take place.

Monbiot then endorses the idea that Building 7 collapsed because "thousands of gallons of diesel [were poured] on to the fire" - oblivious to the fact that, even if an enormous fire could have caused a symmetrical collapse (which required all 81 steel columns to miraculously fail simultaneously), there was, as photographs and eyewitnesses reveal, no enormous fire. Monbiot also appears unaware that several engineers and demolition experts, after studying videos, have declared that this collapse can only have been caused by explosives.

Monbiot suggests that thousands of people must have been involved in the conspiracy, as if the official story must therefore be true. We have no clue as to how many (though some suggest probably fewer than 1,000); but wasn't the Manhattan project, involving 100,000, kept secret, even from Vice-President Truman, until weeks before the first atom bomb was dropped?

Monbiot then suggests that CounterPunch - by refuting the film's claims - has to be correct, because it is a left-leaning newspaper. But acceptance of the official "conspiracy" theory is not a left or right political issue. It is about whether we should accept unconditionally a story which defeats the laws of physics, denies the abundance of witness testimony, and rejects video evidence put forward by an organisation, which, in hindsight, we know had the means, motive and opportunity, and also has a record of being economical with the truth.

We agree that our movie can't answer all the questions that millions of people now have - but the fact that Loose Change is the most downloaded film in internet history is the strongest argument for an honest public debate, and a truly independent inquiry. As we say in the 9/11 Truth Movement: ask questions, demand answers, investigate 9/11.

Tim Sparke is executive producer of Loose Change Final Cut. tim@joiningthedots.tv

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