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How to Write a Conspiracy Theory

POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 20:10
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OLDENGLANDDRY

Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:39 PM

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PS: oldenglanddry, I didn't miss the irony in your post, just thought I'd have some fun.

I dont do Irony, that's woman's work.
No, wait, thats Ironing.

ANTIMASON

Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:00 PM

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Oldenglanddry-
If it were'nt for conspiracy theories a hell of a lot of Publishers and Websites would go out of business.

Therefore:

Conspiracy creates Capital,
Capital fills the pockets of the ruling elite.

Ergo;
Conspiracy is the creation of the ruling elite.

My work here is done.

alright buddy... and what about the corporate media??.. who altogether makes more money during sweeps than all the conspiracy websites and authors would in a year combined.. so get real, whos really out for the money?

ANTHONYT

Monday, January 22, 2007 4:30 AM

Still debating your self interest instead of the conspiracy you wish to expose.

Five points to answer. The safety of the world relies on your ability to answer them convincingly.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

OLDENGLANDDRY

Monday, January 22, 2007 6:43 PM

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Originally posted by antimason:
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Oldenglanddry-
If it were'nt for conspiracy theories a hell of a lot of Publishers and Websites would go out of business.

Therefore:

Conspiracy creates Capital,
Capital fills the pockets of the ruling elite.

Ergo;
Conspiracy is the creation of the ruling elite.

My work here is done.

alright buddy... and what about the corporate media??.. who altogether makes more money during sweeps than all the conspiracy websites and authors would in a year combined.. so get real, whos really out for the money?

Well "Buddy", conspiracy theories are big money earners. It's a multi million dollar business. Just look at the amount of money PIRATENEWS claims to make from his website. Do you think he's doing it for the good of mankind? No, he does it because idiots like you will give him credence.
The fact is that we live in a GLOBAL Capitalist social system. Capitalism pervades every level of society in every corner of the world and yet as a means of improving humanities basic qualities of life has been impotent for nearly 100 years. In order for Capitalism to keep tottering along it has to use the preverbial "oldest trick in the book" I.E. "Divide and rule" and the associated distraction tactics that make the strategy work.
The biggest and most effective distraction tactic there is is the rumour, and Conspiracy is the ultimate in these tactics because it is self-perpetuating and plays on the ideas that people like to think that they are part of some great adventure and bigger than they actually are. I or indeed you could go to any forum on any website and start a conspiracy theory off the top of our heads that would be believed by thousands in a matter of days. It's a little like religion, leaps of faith, the very act of believing it makes it true for a great many people.
Now, answer ANTHONY's 5 points or go away.

ANTIMASON

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:23 AM

i already answered your five points, but they werent what you wanted to hear

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But anyways, try to answer me these questions:

1) What is the desired effect of the 9/11 conspiracy?

a one world government. the consitituion protects our rights, and our sovereignty.. so they needed a disaster to sidetrack us, while they systematically weakened it and undermined its relevance; this has been happening for centuries, but now its time to use America specifically to foment WW3 and a conflict between Islam and christianity; to converge the two worlds, and bring them both under the authority of the UNs founders, the secret societies(and central bankers), and their one world government agenda. we could go through a hundred examples of how this war benefits private parties and the multinational globalist plot, but you could easily research them yourself aswell; whats important is the motive, the premise.. which is a NWO

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2) Why could this effect not be achieved without planting explosives (Thermite, even!) within the Twin Towers?

i believe that without the distraction of the towers collapse, a legitimate investigation may actually have occurred and uncovered the complicity and orchestration of elements directly within the American industrial complex; but given the physcological assault by the pentagon and mass media on the public the days and weaks afterwards, its not suprising that all the evidence of government prior knowledge was swept under the rug, and discarded as 'non sense' and 'paranoid', in the rush to go after the bad guys.. and implement all this extreme, predrafted legislation like the Patriot act

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3) You say traces of Thermite were discovered in the wreckage of the towers. What, specifically was found, and by whom? Do you have copies of the reports in question?

well.. its hard to test for it now, because 'controlled demolition' came in, recovered all the salvageable material, and promptly sent it to china, barring any investigation. but the samples of debris which have been examined, by professor Jones and other colleagues, have reached a similar consenses, that fire and gravity could not have contributed to the high energy release and the pulverization of steel and other materials(aside from the molten, dripping steel seen falling from the impact zones in video footage).

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4) Why was it necessary to use a (missile/military jet) to strike the Pentagon, when regular commercial airliners were available for the job, and would fit the bill of goods the authorities are trying to sell?

i believe because the target was calculated to hit an area with the fewest personel, and they didnt want to take the chance on missing the section of the pentagon under construction, and say.. hit Rumsfields office at the opposite end. but why are you excusing the governments denial of our right to see the physical, video proof that it was a commercial flight that hit the building? the government could simply give back the security videos from the nearby businesses(since im sure theyve been examined already).. and shut us up with the proof, but instead they released a few grainy frames with a post obstructing the incoming projectile, and locked the rest away, including the black boxes and FAA transmissions as 'classified/ national security'

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5) Why would you disembark a plane full of people and then fake the crash of their plane, when it is easier to actually crash the plane they are on?

i dont know all the details.. we are simply pointing out inconsistencies in the official story. why was wreckage recovered over 8 miles away from the PA crash, if it indeed came down in a struggle? why was military craft seen in the area just prior to the crash? according to the families of flight 93, who were allowed by the FBI to hear the cockpit voice recorder, their were no conclusive signs that a struggle ever occurred.. so all we're doing is peicing together the events as they were seen, and not j

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Antimason:

i already answered your five points, but they werent what you wanted to hear

You previously attempted to answer the five points. One wasn't answered at all, and one was answered with a question. Let's see how this new analysis goes:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

But anyways, try to answer me these questions:

1) What is the desired effect of the 9/11 conspiracy?
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a one world government. the consitituion protects our rights, and our sovereignty.. so they needed a disaster to sidetrack us, while they systematically weakened it and undermined its relevance; this has been happening for centuries, but now its time to use America specifically to foment WW3 and a conflict between Islam and christianity; to converge the two worlds, and bring them both under the authority of the UNs founders, the secret societies(and central bankers), and their one world government agenda. we could go through a hundred examples of how this war benefits private parties and the multinational globalist plot, but you could easily research them yourself aswell; whats important is the motive, the premise.. which is a NWO

Okay, I'm with you so far, antimason. A New World Order, built upon a foundation of fear and manipulation. Let's see how they did it:

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2) Why could this effect not be achieved without planting explosives (Thermite, even!) within the Twin Towers?
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i believe that without the distraction of the towers collapse, a legitimate investigation may actually have occurred and uncovered the complicity and orchestration of elements directly within the American industrial complex; but given the physcological assault by the pentagon and mass media on the public the days and weaks afterwards, its not suprising that all the evidence of government prior knowledge was swept under the rug, and discarded as 'non sense' and 'paranoid', in the rush to go after the bad guys.. and implement all this extreme, predrafted legislation like the Patriot act

Okay. Your contention here is that the Towers needed to collapse to provide a distraction which would prevent a proper investigation. Your contention is that if A) Towers Collapse then we get B) Bad investigation. But presumably if C) Towers were simply f-ed up then we'd get D) Good investigation.

What I don't understand is why the towers collapse is seen as the 'magic threshold' where we suddenly bend over for the government. The collapsing towers were certainly startling images, replayed infinitely. But then, too, were the planes crashing into the buildings, fireballs flying out of the sides. In order for me to accept this answer I have to believe that the average american is only emotionally moved by kamikaze attacks that collapse buildings, and not by kamikaze attacks that 'merely' cause hundreds of deaths and result in a building being rendered uninhabitable.

In fact, we know from the Oklahoma bombings that a building doesn't need to collapse for Americans to be shocked and outraged.

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3) You say traces of Thermite were discovered in the wreckage of the towers. What, specifically was found, and by whom? Do you have copies of the reports in question?
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well.. its hard to test for it now, because 'controlled demolition' came in, recovered all the salvageable material, and promptly sent it to china, barring any investigation. but the samples of debris which have been examined, by professor Jones and other colleagues, and have reached a

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ANTIMASON

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:05 AM

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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:

Well "Buddy", conspiracy theories are big money earners. It's a multi million dollar business. Just look at the amount of money PIRATENEWS claims to make from his website. Do you think he's doing it for the good of mankind? No, he does it because idiots like you will give him credence.

do we have a cable news network? by that i mean, any influential media representation which supports our 'conspiratorial' view of society? no.. you have to seek it through the 'alternative' media, like literature, the internet or radio; but mainstream history is dominated by the establishment view, which just outright denies reality. the Federal reserve is a private bank, and they do control the US government... and the media wont say a damn thing to inform you, because theyre in on it. and if youll notice, theres a movement by people like John McCain and director of HS Michael Chertoff, to censor the internet, which is central for communication and dialogue(including knowledge exchange)... meanwhile big money is being thrown at the mouthpeice propoganda networks like CBS, Fox news, CNN.. because they support the establishment view of history. the media is used to stir the pot, and influence society subliminally in certain directions to obtain specific outcomes.. this was known from the beginning of television. if you wonder why Fox hates conspiracy theories, its because they harm corporate America.. which has done nothing but sale us out and undermine our constitution anyways

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The fact is that we live in a GLOBAL Capitalist social system. Capitalism pervades every level of society in every corner of the world and yet as a means of improving humanities basic qualities of life has been impotent for nearly 100 years.

thats because you do not understand the system; whoever creates the money, controls the government, period; and the central banks are owned privately by a relatively small group of individuals. the great depression is perfect evidence of their manipulation.. but that knowledge has been kept quite, because to expose the truth behind our monetary policy would cause a genuine revolution

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In order for Capitalism to keep tottering along it has to use the preverbial "oldest trick in the book" I.E. "Divide and rule" and the associated distraction tactics that make the strategy work.

exactly.. which is what mainstream media is used for, by its puppetmasters, to implant communist/humanist concepts into the American psyche- and condition you for the new world order, neo fuedalist global society being prepared for you

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The biggest and most effective distraction tactic there is is the rumour, and Conspiracy is the ultimate in these tactics because it is self-perpetuating and plays on the ideas that people like to think that they are part of some great adventure and bigger than they actually are.

distraction tactic from what? your unrealized enslavement? go back to sleep..

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I or indeed you could go to any forum on any website and start a conspiracy theory off the top of our heads that would be believed by thousands in a matter of days. It's a little like religion, leaps of faith, the very act of believing it makes it true for a great many people.

IMO, the trend of history towards the final global government is in itself the proof of God, and the prophecies regarding the system of the beast. it all comes down to.. where does man get his rights from? either you have God given rights, or government gives you your rights(which are dictated by men). does government exist to give man his rights? because, besides being communistic, it just exemplifies a servitude to our own creation... which is supposed to exist for our benefit. ultimately, who decides what is right(the elite)? a humanist would say that their are no empirical truths, that everything is relative, that we decide within their own conscience what is appropriate. take a look through history.. you couldnt keep track of the number o

FLETCH2

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:51 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:

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2) Why could this effect not be achieved without planting explosives (Thermite, even!) within the Twin Towers?

i believe that without the distraction of the towers collapse, a legitimate investigation may actually have occurred and uncovered the complicity and orchestration of elements directly within the American industrial complex; but given the physcological assault by the pentagon and mass media on the public the days and weaks afterwards, its not suprising that all the evidence of government prior knowledge was swept under the rug, and discarded as 'non sense' and 'paranoid', in the rush to go after the bad guys.. and implement all this extreme, predrafted legislation like the Patriot act

The problem with this is that it makes no sense. If you crash an airliner into a building and you investigate it, what you find is that a building was hit by an airliner. That evidence supports the official case. What you are saying is that supplemental charges were placed to ensure the destruction of the building to cover up the fact that there were supplemantal charges... redundant in the extreme.

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3) You say traces of Thermite were discovered in the wreckage of the towers. What, specifically was found, and by whom? Do you have copies of the reports in question?

well.. its hard to test for it now, because 'controlled demolition' came in, recovered all the salvageable material, and promptly sent it to china, barring any investigation. but the samples of debris which have been examined, by professor Jones and other colleagues, have reached a similar consenses, that fire and gravity could not have contributed to the high energy release and the pulverization of steel and other materials(aside from the molten, dripping steel seen falling from the impact zones in video footage).

Nobody has found any molten steel on the site, the explanation for why the towers fell does not really on the ironwork melting to explain the collapse. Thermite would be a poor choice for this kind of demolition anyway, a fast, shaped explosive to sever key structural elements would be the only way to ensure success. Could you imagine if you set all of this up and the towers didn't fall? Leaving a whole building full of evidence? It actually makes more sense to just use the planes than to risk something going wrong in the confusion. Conspiracy theories are like Hollywood movies the plans always work, in real life people fail to properly demolish buildings every day.

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4) Why was it necessary to use a (missile/military jet) to strike the Pentagon, when regular commercial airliners were available for the job, and would fit the bill of goods the authorities are trying to sell?

i believe because the target was calculated to hit an area with the fewest personel, and they didnt want to take the chance on missing the section of the pentagon under construction, and say.. hit Rumsfields office at the opposite end. but why are you excusing the governments denial of our right to see the physical, video proof that it was a commercial flight that hit the building?

Actually that's entirely the wrong way of doing it. Western culture has absorbed the Judeo Christian belief in manafest destiny. In reality you WANT the jet to hit Rummy's office (when he's not there of course) you want him to be a survivor put forward the idea that God spared him for greater things. Especially important if you plan on having him lead a war.

You are also especially forgetfull of what happened that day. Bush was shovelled onto Airforce One and flown around out of contact with anyone. First we heard from him after a couple of hours was from inside a concrete bunker in bugspit Idaho (or somewhere.) It took the speech with the Firemen at ground zero to restore his fortunes, for the first few hours the nescessary security made him look like a wimp. Now if you planned all this, if you knew that the attacks were over and t

BUFFALOPHIL

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:54 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:
i emplore you to do some research outside of your mainstream, accidental view of history, because they do exist, and are not the figment of our imaginations

This is what I've been waiting for. You finally suggested that we do research of our own (a reasonable request) rather than dogmatically asserting your opinions. Thank you Antimason.

P.S. I'm not being sarcastic. You're showing signs of being reasonable. That I can appreciate. ;-)

"I cannot abide useless people" -old man, "Shindig"

OLDENGLANDDRY

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:15 PM

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Originally posted by antimason:
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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:

Well "Buddy", conspiracy theories are big money earners. It's a multi million dollar business. Just look at the amount of money PIRATENEWS claims to make from his website. Do you think he's doing it for the good of mankind? No, he does it because idiots like you will give him credence.

do we have a cable news network? by that i mean, any influential media representation which supports our 'conspiratorial' view of society? no.. you have to seek it through the 'alternative' media, like literature, the internet or radio; but mainstream history is dominated by the establishment view, which just outright denies reality. the Federal reserve is a private bank, and they do control the US government... and the media wont say a damn thing to inform you, because theyre in on it. and if youll notice, theres a movement by people like John McCain and director of HS Michael Chertoff, to censor the internet, which is central for communication and dialogue(including knowledge exchange)... meanwhile big money is being thrown at the mouthpeice propoganda networks like CBS, Fox news, CNN.. because they support the establishment view of history. the media is used to stir the pot, and influence society subliminally in certain directions to obtain specific outcomes.. this was known from the beginning of television. if you wonder why Fox hates conspiracy theories, its because they harm corporate America.. which has done nothing but sale us out and undermine our constitution anyways

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The fact is that we live in a GLOBAL Capitalist social system. Capitalism pervades every level of society in every corner of the world and yet as a means of improving humanities basic qualities of life has been impotent for nearly 100 years.

thats because you do not understand the system; whoever creates the money, controls the government, period; and the central banks are owned privately by a relatively small group of individuals. the great depression is perfect evidence of their manipulation.. but that knowledge has been kept quite, because to expose the truth behind our monetary policy would cause a genuine revolution

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In order for Capitalism to keep tottering along it has to use the preverbial "oldest trick in the book" I.E. "Divide and rule" and the associated distraction tactics that make the strategy work.

exactly.. which is what mainstream media is used for, by its puppetmasters, to implant communist/humanist concepts into the American psyche- and condition you for the new world order, neo fuedalist global society being prepared for you

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The biggest and most effective distraction tactic there is is the rumour, and Conspiracy is the ultimate in these tactics because it is self-perpetuating and plays on the ideas that people like to think that they are part of some great adventure and bigger than they actually are.

distraction tactic from what? your unrealized enslavement? go back to sleep..

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I or indeed you could go to any forum on any website and start a conspiracy theory off the top of our heads that would be believed by thousands in a matter of days. It's a little like religion, leaps of faith, the very act of believing it makes it true for a great many people.

IMO, the trend of history towards the final global government is in itself the proof of God, and the prophecies regarding the system of the beast. it all comes down to.. where does man get his rights from? either you have God given rights, or government gives you your rights(which are dictated by men). does government exist to give man his rights? because, besides being communistic, it just exemplifies a servitude to our own creation... which is supposed to exist for our benefit. ultimately, who decides what is right(the elite)? a humanist would say that their are no empirical truths, that everything is relative, that we decide within their own conscience what is appropriate. take a look through histo

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