Bush's speech...

POSTED BY: Khyron
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KHYRON

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:59 AM

... does anybody give a shit anymore?

For those of you who missed it, here's the summary of it: "Give war a chance".

Everything else was filler.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

MAVOURNEEN

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:08 PM

I live about 15 miles from the Capitol. I have no interest in seeing him on tv.

Meh...I watched Dirty Jobs instead.

I predicted his speech would be the same caca he's been spouting for years. And I see this AM that it was exactly that.
A tax cut if you buy insurance? Woo hoo.

Wake me up if someone interesting comes along.

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
I live about 15 miles from the Capitol. I have no interest in seeing him on tv.

Meh...I watched Dirty Jobs instead.

I predicted his speech would be the same caca he's been spouting for years. And I see this AM that it was exactly that.
A tax cut if you buy insurance? Woo hoo.

Wake me up if someone interesting comes along.

I'm Canadian and I somehow managed to find the time to watch.
Democracy is at it's best when fueled by an informed electorate.

Mike Rowe in 2008!

Posting to stir stuff up.

PENGUIN

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:43 PM

*puts a smack-down on the rabble rouser*

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

YINYANG

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:15 PM

Six pages of transcript... Isn't that exciting?

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1581787-1,00.html

Rules: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22892
Voting: http://www.wunschliste.de/index.pl?vote&r=09

CARTOON

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
I'm Canadian and I somehow managed to find the time to watch.
Democracy is at it's best when fueled by an informed electorate.

I couldn't agree more.

You're a credit to your country, and a shame to those in ours who complain about everything, but don't take the time to actually become informed about the subjects over which they continually whine.

If the electorate was ever actually, truly informed, who knows how different the results of last November's elections would have been. Unfortunately, not everyone is like you, and actually takes the time to become informed before making a statement (or voting).

MAVOURNEEN

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
I'm Canadian and I somehow managed to find the time to watch.
Democracy is at it's best when fueled by an informed electorate.

Mike Rowe in 2008!

I am informed.
I know what is best for me and mine.
I didn't vote for him.

Check out the 5th post in this thread from me from September. Mike Rowe for President!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=23789

HERO

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:
For those of you who missed it, here's the summary of it: "Give war a chance".

Everything else was filler.

There was a lot of filler. I liked the part where he recognizes the guests...and thats filler.

I also saw the first real Republican health care plan...I've been waiting 7 years and yes, I am liberal on health care. I make sixty grand/year and can't afford health insurance, that tells me there is a problem. But under this new plan I can and it costs me less in taxes. How bout that? National Health Care would cover me, but I'd pay more in taxes.

The war bit was more then just 'give war a chance'. Basically he said that 'this is what we're going to do, the decision has been made, so knock off the defeatist crap and give the plan a chance to work before you go out and trash it.' Thats a valid message. After all, suppose the daily news led every day with stories of how the US's plan to invade France in June of 1944, a surge if you will, was doomed to failure. Or better yet, why commit more troops to the war against Germany after they broke our lines in December of 1944? Should we not withdraw and seek a peaceful outcome with Hitler?

We don't need Monday morning quarterbacks and armchair generals or 535 would-be Commanders-in-Chief second guessing a plan even before the President formally presents it to the country. Bad for morale...or good for it if your a terrorist.

Then again some folk on this board have said, outright, that they want a military defeat. I'm sure those traitors have a few people in Congress that agree with them.

H

STORYMARK

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cartoon:
Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
I'm Canadian and I somehow managed to find the time to watch.
Democracy is at it's best when fueled by an informed electorate.

I couldn't agree more.

You're a credit to your country, and a shame to those in ours who complain about everything, but don't take the time to actually become informed about the subjects over which they continually whine.

If the electorate was ever actually, truly informed, who knows how different the results of last November's elections would have been. Unfortunately, not everyone is like you, and actually takes the time to become informed before making a statement (or voting).

So, people are only "turly informed" if they agree with you?

I agree though, if people were better informed, November's elections may well have been different. We may have gotten rid of even more of the "do nothing congress". I imagine if people were better informed, the last couple Presidential elections would have been quite different as well. I think it's safe to say if everyone knew then what we know now, Dubya wouldn't be let anywhere near the White House.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:

I am informed.
I know what is best for me and mine.
I didn't vote for him.

Check out the 5th post in this thread from me from September. Mike Rowe for President!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=23789

That is too funny about Mike Rowe, though I tend to agree with Dream about him being a front man.

My point was that it was a State of the Union speech, not just another Bush speech. If one is for or against Bush, Democrat, Republican or Libertarian, it still behooves one to keep up with the present state and where it is heading, IMHO.

Posting to stir stuff up.

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