The Third HEROES thread
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I don't really care one way or another about Zack's sexuality either, really (well, aside from "visible gay character in a serious prime time non-sitcom" versus "potential shippage with Claire"). I'm just mad about another example of suits interfering with writers doing what they're paid to do. Professional indignation.
And yeah, Bennet is just doing what he thinks is right. I'm hoping he has an eye-opening experience (like, say, Claire [whom he sincerely loves] openly rebelling, causing him to question exactly what he's doing) and redeems himself.
He's in the perfect position to play Professor X (access to mutants, head of a powerful secret organization, willingness to sacrifice for the greater good).
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Well, I'm definitely thinking Lindermen is a "bad guy." I'm not sure who would argue the other side of that. It'd be one incredible twist if he turned out to be an Xavier type character, but I really don't see how that could happen given his Casino, shady-money dealings front.
I have a lot of hope invested in Mr. Bennett's character. It seems as though we're entering a very polarized era of television. On one side complete, unintelligent garbage and on the other brilliant, challenging dynamic programming. BSG and Heroes are the two shows I identify most as being on the good side of this. Why does this relate to Bennett's character? Because if they keep him as ambigous then they keep things real. Not everyone should fall into the good camp or the bad camp. Most real people do good and bad things, and it keeps his character believable if he remains a wild card. If he was completely evil I think he would have shot Mohinder. If he was good he'd be doing a lot of things different. Ultimately it seems that he has fairly good intention but very unethical practices.
I could care less whether Zack is gay or not but I hope to god NBC didn't make the writers change whatever they originally intended b/c they wimped out on a diversity thing.
My favorite part was probably Hiro stealing the sword and the meeting in the artist's apartment.
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Quote:I’ve frequently thought that Mr. Bennett’s first name might be Charles, which was Xavier’s first name, but if Bennett is to become the representation of Xavier, he will be much more like the dark and conflicted Xavier of the comics and less like that from the movies. But I think you’re right that Mr. Bennett will come to regret some of his actions, but I also think that Claire is naïve. So when the inevitable clash between father and daughter comes, I think both will have to grow. The Haitian poses a problem though, because he has now positioned himself between Bennett and his daughter, which has proven to be a dangerous place to be, but the Haitian seems be the backbone of Bennett’s power (especially after losing Eden), so that will also be an interesting clash. I don’t know where this Haitian dude stands, but seventeen year old cheerleaders are easy to manipulate even when their father’s dubious surreptitious activities can’t be used against her. The Haitian might not be as benign as his collected manner makes him appear.
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I don't really care one way or another about Zack's sexuality either, really (well, aside from "visible gay character in a serious prime time non-sitcom" versus "potential shippage with Claire"). I'm just mad about another example of suits interfering with writers doing what they're paid to do. Professional indignation.
And yeah, Bennet is just doing what he thinks is right. I'm hoping he has an eye-opening experience (like, say, Claire [whom he sincerely loves] openly rebelling, causing him to question exactly what he's doing) and redeems himself.
He's in the perfect position to play Professor X (access to mutants, head of a powerful secret organization, willingness to sacrifice for the greater good).
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I second that completely. I was really baffled when this minor controversy erupted. In all the previous eps, I never saw any concrete evidence that Zack was gay. Just because you're a film geek and you get gay slander from the popular students doesn't make you gay. I should know. I pretty much lived that through high school. And while I loved Claire for sticking up for him and befriending him, I resent that TV idea that the only time a straight girl can have a platonic male friend is if he's gay.
So yes, I am a Zack/Claire shipper (although I wouldn't mind seeing her hook up with Peter). And if Zack turns out to be straight (which is what I thought all along anyways), then fine. I have bigger concerns about the show than the sexuality of a minor character.
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Ok, liked Christopher Eccleston on the show & I just knew he was invisible. Soon as I realized he is robbing people and no one seems to notice except Peter I told the wife "Yep. He's invisible." Cool that Peter immediately absorbed his power by being in proximity to him. I believe that is the only reason Peter could see him to begin with. Eccleston's character appears to be homeless. Anyone else get that impression? A play on how people ignore the homeless and treat them as non-entities so his power is invisibility?
I like the fact that the Haitian didn't mindwipe Claire. She certainly is playing it cool around her "father". Old spectales doesn't seem to be any the wiser. Wonder why the Haitian is still covering for Bennett if he didn't follow orders to wipe Claire. Hopefully she will reunite w/ Peter.
I too liked the museum robbery scene. The whole tale of the ronin turned samurai hero by taking possession of an enchanted sword was shiny. Guess Hiro plans on using the sword as a focus for his power. Wonder if it will really work. Did anyone notice if the symbol on the sword was present when future Hiro visited Peter on the subway train? I don't recall that sword having the symbol, but I might be wrong. Strange that Linderman has the real sword, but it seems that most of the heroes are tied to him somehow. That is a big plot device waiting to be sprung on us. Most likely a season finale cliffhanger.
I really dug how Nathan, Hiro and Issacc are all together now. Perhaps they can accomplish something. I'm wondering if they are going to go back to Vegas to visit Linderman. Certainly seems to be the plan. Like how Nathan is slowly coming around to accepting his power and some responsibility for trying to stop the destruction of NYC.
So, radioactive man is practicing with his powers in the Nevada desert. Isn't that interesting. Wonder why he is doing it. Could it be the proximity to old bomb testing grounds? Did anyone else catch Peter on the phone asking for a ticket to the desert in Nevada? He asked if that is where they test the bombs. Reckon Peter & Radioactive man will be meeting up soon. Still not sure it will be Peter that blows up in NYC. My money is still on Radioactive man. Kind of figured him for the bomb since he was introduced.
I'm thinking that Nikki's evil persona is going to break her out of prison soon. Not sure where they are going with her arc yet.
I wonder how long it can possibly be before Matt & Bennett have a showdown. That is bound to be ugly. Glad to see him confiding in his wife. Wonder if she will believe him though or if she will wind up betraying him.
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I think Ted's training to gain some kind of control over his powers. What we saw looked like he was trying to contain the little bursts for as long as possible. If he can do that, he can learn how to either bleed it off slowly or unleash it in focussed blasts away from (or possibly toward) anything vulnerable. It was his lack of control that killed his wife, remember.
And yes, Nevada was ground zero for nuclear weapons testing. See "Groom Lake," "Los Alamos," and "Area 51." Middle of nowhere, so it makes sense that Ted and Peter would gravitate there if they're worried about exploding.
And I love how the promo for next week focuses on Eccleston's character saying "Fantastic" (his Dr. Who catchphrase).
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Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Eccleston's character appears to be homeless. Anyone else get that impression? A play on how people ignore the homeless and treat them as non-entities so his power is invisibility?
I was thinking the same thing. If they don't go that route, I think it's a missed opportunity.
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...wish i could make this post invisible, haha
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1. Is anyone but me bothered by the fact that the "Haitian" has an accent that is very non-Haitian? Probably not.
E2A: LOL! He IS Haitian. Duh. Okay, I will amend this to state that he doesn't sound anything like the Haitians I knew in college.
2. Gay Zach? I thought of him as inexperienced sexually, teased about everything, maybe not too sure what he was anyway and so not bothering to deny it when teased about being gay. Or maybe bi. Which I think lots of inexperienced teens wonder about anyway.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
And yeah, Bennet is just doing what he thinks is right. I'm hoping he has an eye-opening experience (like, say, Claire [whom he sincerely loves] openly rebelling, causing him to question exactly what he's doing) and redeems himself.
He's in the perfect position to play Professor X (access to mutants, head of a powerful secret organization, willingness to sacrifice for the greater good).
Mohinder is Professor X
Mr. Bennet is clearly Magneto, doing the wrong things for the right reasons.
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