How to Write a Conspiracy Theory

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KHYRON

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:26 PM

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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Why do the people who already run the world want to go to such elaborate lengths, and involve themselves in such incredible "plots" to attempt to take over the world that they are already in control of?

Because they were bored?

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

ANTIMASON

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:43 PM

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posted by Fletch2-
The problem with this is that it makes no sense. If you crash an airliner into a building and you investigate it, what you find is that a building was hit by an airliner. That evidence supports the official case.

unless different planes were envolved... that evidence is now long gone, irrecoverable

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What you are saying is that supplemental charges were placed to ensure the destruction of the building to cover up the fact that there were supplemantal charges... redundant in the extreme.

no.. i still think youre missing the point; elements within government guided this plot from conception to fullfillment.. so the intent of destroying the buildings, (including building 7 and the pentagon crash) was just meant to further compound the confusion and hysteria, and aide in the coverup by eliminating evidence.

theres a quote from a book called 'the Unseen Hand', which states

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"it is difficult for the observer to believe that such a giant, well organized conspiracy does exist, and that the goals they envision for the world(a NWO) are real. this disbelief by the public is what fuels their success, and it behooves the 'Conspiracy' to plan their events in such a way that the truth becomes so incredible and so preposterous, that no one would believe they(the events) were intentionally created.

i believe that if by some miracle, one of the towers survived, we could potentially have had an entire crime scene full of evidence of this coverup.. and the public would have at minimum, demanded the release of black box/fAA and NORAD data to assist in the investigation- which never really happened because of the chaos at ground zero. it seems to a lot of people that if you really scrutinize the events prior to 9/11, there are too many questions that have never been brought to light with sufficient clarity, or have been outright ommitted, distorted or classified.. so considering the political/social ramifications of 9/11, we ought to make damn sure we're making decisions based on fact, and not the Pentagon/shadow governments orchestrated crisis and propoganda

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Nobody has found any molten steel on the site, the explanation for why the towers fell does not really on the ironwork melting to explain the collapse.

if thermate was distributed throughout the structure, then the molten steel would be evidence of this; besides the video, and the tons of documentation that any search engine will uncover, the firemen and construction workers at ground zero reported molten steel in the towers basement as much as two weeks after the events- that kind of energy simply cannot be duplicated by jet fuel, or a structural collapse

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Thermite would be a poor choice for this kind of demolition anyway, a fast, shaped explosive to sever key structural elements would be the only way to ensure success.

thermate.. which i believe is also evident from the initial impacts, and the massive fireball that insued. the thermate obviously would have increased the temperatures of the impact, and used the jet fuel as a catalyst to systematically weaken the buildings structural rigidity

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Conspiracy theories are like Hollywood movies the plans always work, in real life people fail to properly demolish buildings every day.

ok.. but 3 buildings properly demolish themselves in a single day?

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Actually that's entirely the wrong way of doing it... Western culture has absorbed the Judeo Christian belief in manafest destiny. In reality you WANT the jet to hit Rummy's office (when he's not there of course) you want him to be a survivor put forward the idea that God spared him for greater things. Especially important if you plan on having him lead a war.

your theory sounds equally as hollywood

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You are also especially forgetfull of what happened that day. Bush was shovelled onto Airforce One and flown around out of contact with anyone.

he was at an elementary school, doing a fairly wel

FLETCH2

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:16 PM

If you used airliners and the towers didn't fall then the only evidence there would be to find would be that airliners were involved. You use the unsubstatiated "military aircraft" and "thermite" to ensure the destruction of the building and cover up "evidence" What evidence? That you used "military aircraft" and thermite.

Like I said, things go wrong in demolitions all the time, and that's when there isn't planes being flown into things and ongoing fires. If you rigged the building as you suggest and it DIDN'T fall for some reason then you would be in deep dodo. More elements, more chance of a single point failure, especially since you have to do all this covertly. The whole premise is insane.

Modern politics is run by many of the same kind of folks that run the entertainment industry. They know about "Message." There was a perfect opertunity to push Bush as a resolute war president on 9/11, a great opertunity to pain Rumsfelt as a survivor destined to lead the people on a campaign or retribution. If they set it up then they would have exploited that. Instead we saw 48 hours as they scrambled to react. As for the primary school incident, that made him look weak and undecisive, sure politicians kiss babies and want to be seen with kids. However reading kids stories while thousands burned to death is not a great image. In the real world he didnt have a clue what was going on, in your world he did, so he'd have known to look more presidential.

Finally a last thought because I can see we are getting nowhere. The central core of your theory runs like this. The Administration needs an excuse to go to war in the mid east and establish NWO. They do this by fiendishly masterminding a genius level intricate plot. Something so complex that any number of things could have gone wrong and left them looking at trial for treason. And yet even operating covertly they manage to co-ordinate hundreds of details and thousands of people flawlessly.

Then we are to believe that these people, having successfully pulled off the greatest piece of preplanning in human history go on to completely screw the pooch when they get what they want, war in the mid east. If they are as smart as you think they are 1) why is Iraq such a problem for them? and 2) how come you haven't been involved in some terible autoaccident on your way home to your mom's basement?

ANTIMASON

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:24 PM

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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:

People will believe what they want to believe.
You are a pretty classic example of that case in point and you've pretty much just substantiated everything i said

ok.. then admit that you believe government is relatively benevolent(with no alterior motive), because that is a faith certainly not supported by history

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Before I leave this thread to wind down to it's inevitably Pantomimic conclusion let me pose a question. I've posed it before and nobody has answered it satisfactorily so now you can have a go. It's simply this:

Why do the people who already run the world want to go to such elaborate lengths, and involve themselves in such incredible "plots" to attempt to take over the world that they are already in control of?

because they dont have there world government established yet.. that and population control are two obvious answeres; and they cannot track your person yet, or micromanage your behavior

KHYRON

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:33 PM

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Originally posted by antimason:
that and population control are two obvious answeres;

Can't be population control, birth rates soar in unstable and/or underdeveloped regions (with some exceptions), are at or below replacement level in stable and developed regions (with some exceptions). Starting a war may kill hundreds of thousands, but the dead will quickly be replaced by babies once the war is over.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

FLETCH2

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:48 PM

Your problem AntiMason is that you think your conspiracy is the truth and the real world view the distraction. In reality you and guy's like you are the distraction. There are a lot of damned good questions about 9/11, things like inadiquacies in immigration control, issues with NORAD's response times, things you touch on only briefly in your Uber plot. However that touch is deadly it means that few people investigate them for fear of being labled a tinfoil hat wearer. Even if they did find anything, the rubbish folks like you and PN spew on the net muddy the waters so much it would be hard to be taken seriously.

There was evidence in the 1960's that the Airforce encouraged the reporting of experimental aircraft sightings and missle tests as UFO sightings and actively used the country's "Alien Watchers" to cover up their own tests. Are you sure that you are not being fed a rediculous fiction skillfully designed to discredit anyone investigating government negligence connected to 9/11?

Are you really working for them?

RUE

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:57 PM

"Starting a war may kill hundreds of thousands, but that number will quickly be replaced by babies once the war is over."

Just look at Iran today. Sure its population is skewed to the young, but the protracted war didn't put more than a ripple in its population.

OLDENGLANDDRY

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by antimason:

because they dont have there world government established yet.. that and population control are two obvious answeres; and they cannot track your person yet, or micromanage your behavior

There is a partial example of the self-perpetuation I was talking about.
You can come up with "reasons" for why the "plots" will never end because "they" have'nt done so-and-so yet Ad Infinitum.

The only real conspiracy is the number of distractionists out there deliberately spreading conspiracy theories.

You'r obviously one, but you'r just not very good at it yet.

ANTIMASON

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:00 AM

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oldenglanddry-

There is a partial example of the self-perpetuation I was talking about.
You can come up with "reasons" for why the "plots" will never end because "they" have'nt done so-and-so yet Ad Infinitum.

and youll constantly come up with excuses why everthing happens merely by accident, with no motive or cause.

where do you see the world 20 years from now? people accuse politicians of being shortsighted about the future, on important issues like global warming or 'terrorism'.. when the reality is, everything is going as planned, because there actually is a plan. in light of the doom and gloom forecasts.. you dont think any prominant elite have ever gotten together to establish a long term strategy to (re)shape the future and guide it in a specific direction(like a centralized one world government)? it would be naive for anyone to bipass concern about the future.. but the key is dont wrongly assume that our leaders have the avg persons best interests at heart, because they certainly dont

if you take a look at the CFR documents, 5 years from now the NAFTA SPP American Union will be finished, and we wont be a sovereign nation anymore, but something the equivelant to an EU(but worse). to a conspiracy theorist, that seems like a huge step towards global government... but in your mind, itll all just be happening randomly, by accident.. an unfortunate series of uncontrollable events. it only takes a little wisdom and foresight to see the direction society is headed.. but youll miss the warning signs if you arent paying attention

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The only real conspiracy is the number of distractionists out there deliberately spreading conspiracy theories.

again.. distractions from what? without us, all youd hear is establishment propoganda. i refuse to be a fool, and get bogged down in the endless partisan DISTRACTIONS.. the false debates that are fostered to use the 2 party system to polarize public opinion and grease the skids for communist NWO legistlation to be proposed and introduced. how does your worldview help preserve the constitution? if you believe theres a war on terror, than realize youre really fighting a war on freedom. wrap your brain around this, either youre with the government, and its banking masters, or you are "with the terrorists", Bush said it himself.

what is the difference between a terrorist and a criminal? the government says the difference is, a terrorist is not a human being, and has no rights. they both break the laws equally, regardless of their motive- but the "terrorist" is not recognized as a sovereign being. now maybe thats ok to you, i know ive heard other nazi-esque sentiments around here, like its ok to set up camps and throw 'terrorists' away.. but before we lose all empathy for other people, keep in mind that laws like the patriot and military commissions acts will soon be turning americans into terrorists

ANTIMASON

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:12 AM

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Originally posted by Khyron:

Can't be population control, birth rates soar in unstable and/or underdeveloped regions (with some exceptions), are at or below replacement level in stable and developed regions (with some exceptions). Starting a war may kill hundreds of thousands, but the dead will quickly be replaced by babies once the war is over.

eugenics, forced sterilizations, euthenasia, abortion, there are a lot of ways it will be done..

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