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The Speech

POSTED BY: Dayve
UPDATED: Thursday, January 18, 2007 20:22
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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:38 PM

Oh yick, that's positively horrific - it gives ME the willies, and that's far from easy, given my history and employment!

Yanno, I've never really understood racism, I thought it idiotic even as a child in a semi-racist family, and chose actively to not practice those same stupidities myself - recently it was all I could do to not comment in my usual rough-n-ready fashion when a friends mother decided to put her house up for sale because "those people" were moving in, and when the neighborhood stopped being all white, it stopped being all right ?

Purile idiocy, of the worst form, I barely even comprehend it.

I guess it's some vestige of throwback tribalism where folks mentally categorize folk who don't look like them as "Other, Alien, Threat" or something, cause it don't make no sense, really it don't.

I guess politics plays a role too, right now a prime target seems to be arabic folk, which makes livin in dearborn kinda rough, and I would have to say there was a merit to the words of one of my friends down on cass when he was talking to one of our arabic drivers.

"Man, everybody gotta hate somebody, ain't nothin new, always some low man on the totem pole for everyone else to crap on so they feel better, all it is, you're just the new negros, welcome to the club, man."

*shaking head*
Well, if most people are like that, guess that's why I don't like most people, ehe?

To quote Jayne - "It don't make no sense!"

-Frem

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Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:01 AM

On a lighter but sort of related joke


I went to a comedy club a few years back, one of the comics that night was a black man from L.A.

His bit started with him flying into Vancouver, a few airline jokes. Then he talked about standing infront of the terminal looking for a cab when three police cars tore in and slammed on the brakes. He said he fell to his knees covered his head and waited for the beating.....


After a minute he looked up and the cops were beating a native man twenty feet down the sidewalk


I love Canada he yells


All perspective I guess

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Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Oh yeah - try not payin the master his cut(taxes) and see how free you really are.

You asked for it....
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo44.html
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In his First Inaugural he pledged his support of a proposed constitutional amendment that had just passed the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives that would have prohibited the federal government from ever having the power "to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State." In his First Inaugural Lincoln advocated making this amendment "express and irrevocable."

Dilorenzo can in fact, prove that claim - it's historically documented fact.

Lincoln is also the guy who had NYC shelled by artillery in response to draft riots because people did not wish to be cannon fodder for his ambitions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Draft_Riots

The union tactical doctrine seemed at times to be "just bury them in bodies, theirs, ours, who cares, we'll get more", Grant's own troops called him a butcher for good reason, especially after Cold Harbor
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cold_Harbor )
as compared to (initially) a very high percentage of the southern forces beiong volunteers, fighting and dying for something they believed in rather than being forced to fight for something they didn't - not a moral judgement this, but a simple statement of how things were.

At the end of it all, the south really had nobody LEFT to stand up and fight, the attrition of their forces was so horrific that widows and orphans were the bulk of southern population for a good long while.

(Side note: Forced Conscription is technically a form of slavery in and of itself and more horrifying in experience than any other.)

He was in fact hated at times more than the confederacy, even by his own people, who made their will known quite strongly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_riot_of_1861
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fort_Fizzle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Jackson_Affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_Riot

As with any war, most folk didn't really want it, especially if they had to fight it.

Constitution ? Habeus Corpus ? Due Process ? WHo gives a damn ?

http://www.civilwarhome.com/ProvostMarshal.htm

Freedom of the press ? in your dreams - many of those arbitrary arrests were newsies that Lincoln and supporters felt were 'disloyal' and thus subjected to arrest, and placed in the civil war version of gitmo.

And noteably, he did not seek a congressional declaration of war before acting.

The man was a monster, and it was against his ilk that the founding fathers put certain provisions in the constitution and forbade a standing army, for when you have a hammer, every problem starts looking like a nail.

He didn't preserve the Republic, he destroyed it, in favor of the bloated parasitic monster that the FedGov has become.

Was he somehow "Right" in doing so ? - I don't feel qualified to make that judgement, myself, in all honesty, but personally I doubt it.

It wasn't nearly as simple an issue as capsule history classes make it out to be, nor were the politicians of either side particularly noble or virtuous.. but the historical record of fact shows without a doubt that the man was right up there with Papa Doc, Pinochet, Hitler and others of that ilk.

If you can justify what Abe did, then you can similarly justify Hitlers own actions in unifying HIS country - and for myself, i'll have none of it.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and watching anyone emulate those actions makes me nervous, especially some texan who's not half the leader Abe was.
(Yes, I give him that, iron-fisted tyrant that he was, Abe had the charisma and oratory skill to make folks do what he wanted.)

-Frem



Ditto.


"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, Pirate TV

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Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:22 PM

Major George Bush was a Jewish soldier in the Revolutionary War, and Abraham Lincoln was adopted - his real name was Rothschild, heir to the trillionaire Jewish cartel, same as Adolf Hitler Schicklegruber.
http://www.conspiracyworld.com/index0128.htm
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/calendar.html

Honest Abe used his white slaves to perp terrorist bombings to destroy US cities, and genocided 600,000 US citizens, just like Jr Bush perped against NY City on 9/11, and New Orleans when he bombed the levees and blockaded escape and supplies, while sabotaging police radio antennas.

Abe invaded the South, Bush invaded the South with 40-million illegal aliens, with 200-million OTW. Both Abe and Bush are guilty of treason.

Will Bush get Abe's coup d'grat from the Shadow Govt, same as he gave Saddam and his headless brother?

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"The New York Draft Riots (July 13 to July 16, 1863; known at the time as Draft Week) were a series of violent disturbances in New York City that were the culmination of discontent with new laws passed by Congress to draft men to fight in the ongoing American Civil War. [Jewish] President Abraham Lincoln [Rothschild] sent several regiments of militia and volunteer troops to control the city. The conditions in the city were such that Major General John E. Wool stated on July 16, 'Martial law ought to be proclaimed, but I have not a sufficient force to enforce it.' The military suppressed the mob using artillery and fixed bayonets."
-Wikipedia, New York City Draft Riots (Lincoln used his white slaves to perp terrorist bombings to destroy US cities and to genocide 600,000 Amerikans)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Draft_Riots

nigger.
a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons: "It's time for somebody to lead all of America's niggers... all the people who feel left out of the political process" - Ron Dellums.
-Merriam Webster Dictionary

"We're all black people now."
-Dick Gregory, September 12, 2001

"In the first few days of the new session of Congress, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and big Washington insiders such as Public Citizen and Common Cause will try to silence critics by regulating us through quarterly reports to Congress. Failure to report would result in civil and potential criminal penalties. Section 220 of S. 1, the lobbying reform bill currently before the Senate, would require grassroots causes, even bloggers, who communicate to 500 or more members of the public on policy matters, to register and report quarterly to Congress the same as the big K Street lobbyists. Section 220 would amend existing lobbying reporting law by creating the most expansive intrusion on First Amendment rights ever. For the first time in history, critics of Congress will need to register and report with Congress itself. This latest attack on bloggers comes hot on the heels of Republican Senator John McCain's proposal to introduce legislation that would fine blogs up to $300,000 for offensive statements, photos and videos posted by visitors on comment boards."
-Richard A. Viguerie, Chairman, GrassrootsFreedom.com, January 17, 2007 (TN senators Lamar "I Raped Cathy O'Brien And Almost Killed Her" Alexander and Bob "I Hire Illegal Alien Felons" Corker both voted YES)
http://infowars.net/articles/january2007/180107Bloggers_Prison.htm
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_c
fm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00002


"A slave is he who cannot speak his thoughts."
-Euripides

slave.
Middle English sclave, from Old French esclave, from Medieval Latin sclvus, from Sclvus, Slav (from the widespread enslavement of captured Slavs in the early Middle Ages); see SLAV. Word History: The derivation of the word slave encapsulates a bit of European history and explains why the two words slaves and Slavs are so similar; they are, in fact, historically identical.
-American Heritage® Dictionary

"The people resemble a wild beast, which, naturally fierce and accustomed to live in the woods, has been brought up, as it were, in a prison and in

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