Earth that was

POSTED BY: VivaChimera
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VIVACHIMERA

Monday, January 15, 2007 11:24 PM

Can anyone still live there, does anyone?
was it completely destroyed, or was it abandoned because of overpopulation. these are my questions, it's been bugging me for a while, how a planet can be completely abandoned, also, has the 'verse had any contact with EtW?

YINYANG

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:01 AM

I would think that the overpopulation contributed to some sort of destruction of the planet as a good place to live. And, how long has it been since people left Earth-that-Was? 100 years? 200 years? More?

I would think, with the advent of terraforming and affordable space travel, that everyone would have cleared off of Earth whether there was still any means to salvage it or not.

But, I don't have any of the books to back me up, so these are just guesses.

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ROJBLAKE

Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:20 PM

ETW probably still exists, it is probably just a long way off...or concievably to use another sci-fi reference there might be a jump gate ala Babulon 5 or Lost in Space.

Such a gate might have been destroyed (or might be a relic, a monument like the St. Louis "Gateway to the west" it might simply be non-functional)...also the "exodus" per se might have been those who gave up on the Earth...political, economic, ideological reasons

Not unlike the exodus west in our own history. Perhaps there was a mass migration to escape "Global Warming/Cooling"; perhaps a bio-plague...the Alliance has been around long enough to write (rewrite) alot of history.

Consider that there were probably at least 2 journies "west" because I don't see thousands/millions of people sitting is spaceships for "decades" while the first worlds were terraformed.

Perhaps the Alliance were colonies of Earth who broke away from earth in a rebellion & the Alliance officially rewrote the history to prevent its citizens wanting to return to ETW & causing dissention within the power structure.

EMPIREX

Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:47 PM

Hmmm... I thought I read something about this... that Earth's resources had been used up. That an entire generation of travelers never saw the outside of a spaceship (I think those were Joss's words). For some reason, I imagine some people and their families getting sent decades ahead to prepare the way (terraforming and then building cities) and then everyone else followed. A massive undertaking at any rate. I always wondered though, surely they couldn't round everyone up. I bet there's still some people left on earth that was. And I'm no science expert, but the planet would heal itsself in time, wouldn't it?

ROJBLAKE

Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:03 PM

The Earth is in essence a living organism, if the eco-system got so bad that it would no longer sustain human life it probably would heal itself (after killing us all off).

The dinosaurs were the dominant species at one time, we are the dominant species of our time...in the future who knows.

As long as any part of the eco-sytem is still present & as long as the "rock" itself does not break, the Earth will continue to survive.

The current eco-panics are about human-survival & politics...not the survival of the Earth.

MANWITHPEZ

Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:37 PM

Quote:
That an entire generation of travelers never saw the outside of a spaceship (I think those were Joss's words).

Not for nothing, but if you read Zoe's bio from the Alliance that the Operative is reading in Serenity, you can plainly see that she was born "Vesselside"

I wonder if that means on a ship, or if there's a planet named that...cause that's a weird name for a planet!

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ROJBLAKE

Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:22 AM

Vesselside probably does mean inside a ship, or possibly on a space station...but people are occasionally born in taxicabs too.

I wonder if the exodus from ETW might have used Cryosleep kind of like Planet of the Apes or Riddick.

Actually if they used cryosleep people may only have been awakened as needed, thus making the transition easier.

Although the record could have been messed with by the political/scientific leaders that would have awakened first.

CITIZEN

Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:56 AM

There's an official line, it's that the trip was made on multigenerational, not sleeper, ships.

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ROJBLAKE

Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:50 PM

There's always an official line...the official line is that Miranda was made uninhabitable by a terraforming event too remember.

Half of history is hiding the truth too.

As a GM one can always alter the "official" story to be what serves the story/plot best.

The "official" line is also to help explain why there are so few cultural seperations...and yet if Badger isn't cockney English what is he...or Niska I would say the Russian Mafia survived the trip & some 500 years pretty well.

Just food for thought.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RojBlake:
There's always an official line...the official line is that Miranda was made uninhabitable by a terraforming event too remember.

By Official I mean:
What Joss said.

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