Earth that was

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ROJBLAKE

Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:16 PM

Well let me say this, if Joss (Isn't that Luck in Chinese) felt it nessecary to change the back story he would/could...if it is a plot issue for a GM...do the same.

I've played several RPG's based on movies/Tv shows...trust me the official line changes...as soon as is convienient.

Also as I pointed out the generational ship story was to explain the "blurring of cultural lines"...& yet there are examples (I listed 2) within the canon itself that might seem to indicate differently.

I doubt that it matters to people in the 'verse on a day-to-day level anyway.

However for those who are doing crosovers, want to get involved in political upheavals etc. then the history might be important.

Consider that even if FTL doesn't exist the speed/technology of Spaceships would have been refined/improved over time...the Alliance is spread pretty thin. It would be in their interest to restrict excursions beyond the 'Verse therefore making ETW unattainable would be in their interest...especially if ETW still exists & is habitable, or worse if the exodus was caused by political/economic/cultual differences.

What if ETW perfected its terraforming technologies on our Moon, Mars, Saturn etc. Surly the people of Earth would have developed this technology as a certainty before heading off into the unknown?

CITIZEN

Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:27 PM

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Originally posted by RojBlake:
I've played several RPG's based on movies/Tv shows...trust me the official line changes...as soon as is convienient.

RPGs aren't ussually considered cannon.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

ROJBLAKE

Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:33 PM

Whoa, hold it...I thought this was the forum for Role Playing in the Firefly/Serenity universe!

I think we're talking at cross-puposes here I've been talking about plot changes/alterations for the purposes of RPG's not changing the structure of the show or debating weather I agree with Mr. Whedon.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RojBlake:
Whoa, hold it...I thought this was the forum for Role Playing in the Firefly/Serenity universe!

I think we're talking at cross-puposes here I've been talking about plot changes/alterations for the purposes of RPG's not changing the structure of the show or debating weather I agree with Mr. Whedon.

You're of course right, I'm just pointing out that there is an official history, and you can deviate from it if you so wish, but personally I think it's better to stick to the official backstory most of the time.

Further that an RPG story change is not a canon story change

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

ROJBLAKE

Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:50 PM

Cool, I agree with that...but at the same time I am also pointing out that alterations to the official line in this particular instance are very easy to explain/justify.

Between the Alliance's proclivity for altering truth/reality, & the general apathy of the 'Verse's populace it isn't very hard.

Especialy with the upcoming release of Battlestar Galactica using the same rules I've talked to some who are working out "crossovers".

With the appearence of an Imperial Shuttle from Star Wars in the pilot episode (or so i'm told/haven't checked yet) it opens up even more cans of even bigger worms.

Also the lack of supplemental game information at this point folk are going to look for additional source information from other locations.

For example: What if the 'Verse were founded by xenophobic humans from the realm of Babylon 5...it would be 300 years in their future & the exodus could be voluntary to isolate themselves from the Aliens that helped to infect/destroy earth...if the mission in "Excalibur" failed.

SHINYED

Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:17 PM

500 years into the future....the Earth is over-run and dominated by the Bailys....machine killers originally programmed by humans in the 20th century....now the resistance fights back against the machines : In the year 2525 three women keep hope alive....WHOOOPS!!!..wrong show...sorry!

ROJBLAKE

Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:57 PM

I checked it out & yes there is an Imperial Shuttle in the pilot episode of Firefly.

So I can see Star Wars/Serenity crossover justifications already.

Also a Firefly is seen in the new Battlestar Galactica series.

I have no doubt that there are folk working out Farscape & Stargate plotlines as well.

OVERSTUFFED

Sunday, April 15, 2007 4:36 AM

An interesting series of stories that I've thought might be interesting as episodes has been along the lines of what would happen if a slower than light ship arrived after an 80 year trip from earth? A sideline story would be what if the ship were from another of earth's colonies in a nearby system?

REDRIVER

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by RojBlake:
The Earth is in essence a living organism, if the eco-system got so bad that it would no longer sustain human life it probably would heal itself (after killing us all off).

The dinosaurs were the dominant species at one time, we are the dominant species of our time...in the future who knows.

As long as any part of the eco-sytem is still present & as long as the "rock" itself does not break, the Earth will continue to survive.

The current eco-panics are about human-survival & politics...not the survival of the Earth.

I wouldn't compare humans to dinosaurs.. if we don't put all our eggs in one busket and instead spread our "seed" to other worlds/planets then Earth "rebirth" won't kill us off like simple organisms populatin' it aka dinasaurs or other animals...

btw, humans went thru at least one "reboot" by mother Earth already and survived.. global deluge and the arc anybody?

NBZ

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:21 AM

We do not need crossovers to justify the existence of "Earth that was".

The BDM says it could no longer support our numbers. Too many people.

If the number are reduced, it could support a reduced number.

Travel to new systems would not be cheap. It has been suggested it was a multi generational journey - something which I personally am sure not everyone could afford. Nor would all governments feel the need to evacuate.

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