Manadatory vaccination (Part 3)

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RUE

Wednesday, January 3, 2007 12:47 PM

FremD,

I'm kinda tired of responding to CTS's histrionic and ever-shifting 'issues'.

What say you?

What would you like to discuss?

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FREMDFIRMA

Wednesday, January 3, 2007 1:10 PM

I think it's best on this one for folks to just agree to disagree, let others read what's gone before, do their own homework, and make their own decisions, really.

Anything further is just gonna devolve into a flamewar, and ain't no need for it, might as well just skip that, and move onto somethin else to butt heads about.

Study topic of the hour (for me) is Vedic translations and the possibility of pre-historic high technology... have a look, you'll find it fascination, also the paralells between them and Norse beliefs concerning the Ragnarock are downright eerie...

-F

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RUE

Wednesday, January 3, 2007 4:53 PM

Dang.

I was really interested in what your perspective was.

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CANTTAKESKY

Wednesday, January 3, 2007 5:23 PM

Frem,

I was ready to let it go at the end of Part 2 before Signy brought it here to Part 3. I am frankly tired of being flamed with bizarre distortions of what I said. It appears my posts aren't actually read anyway.

I keep saying that vaccination is a complex issue. There are many layers in the mandatory vaccination debate, including vaccine effectiveness, vaccine dangers, infectivity and public health threats, smallpox eradication, conflicts of interest, etc. I've tried to present arguments on each of these layers, backed with references, in one segment at a time. I still have many more segments to go. But clearly it has been a waste of my time thus far, so why bother putting in the time for the rest?

I have a segment in my head that I want to write eventually. It is called, "Vaccinationism: America's State-Sponsored Religion." I would draw parallel's between the fervor of anti-choice vaccination proponents and the fervor of religious fundamentalists. Similarly, I would draw parallel's between the bitterness of anti-vaccination proponents and the bitterness of some atheists. But I will have to let that one go.

I will end with a few stories of what this is all about. These stories illustrate why it is paramount that PARENTS make informed choices for their children, not the government. Whether you vaccinate or not, you are either risking dangers of the diseases or dangers of the vaccines. Parents and the children they love are the ones who will live (or die) with the consequences of these decisions. No one should be FORCED or COERCED to take these risks.

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http://www.thinktwice.com/stories.htm

I recently took our only children, Harley (2 months) and Ashlee (2 years), to the doctor for their well-baby appointments. Harley had the sniffles and Ashlee had a cold, otherwise both were in perfect health.

Harley was given his first DPT, oral polio, and Hib shots. Ashlee received her first Hib and MMR shots, as well as her third DPT and fourth oral polio shots.

After the vaccinations I laid the children down for their naps. Harley woke first; his thighs were red. I heard Ashlee wake and then I heard a 'THUMP!' Ashlee fell flat on the floor. She cried out `Mommy, me no walk!' I checked her over and stood her up; there was no strength in either leg.

...Harley was high-pitched screaming. The babysitter said it started more than one-and-a-half hours before. He was inconsolable. He finally screamed himself into exhaustion two hours later. I called the emergency ward. They recommended a warm bath and told me it was 'nothing to worry about.'

For ten days Harley's behavior changed. He barely slept, hardly ate, and seemed to be getting worse. On May 17, 1991, at 9:00 a.m., my husband got up, checked on Harley, and yelled out, `Bonnie, get up, call the ambulance. Harley is dead!'

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When I did allow Vicki to be vaccinated at 4 months, she got very sick that night. She screamed nonstop in a high-pitched scream. She wouldn't nurse and couldn't be comforted. Her temperature was quite high...

Today, Vicki has seizures all the time. Doctors say she has an `attention deficit.' She is extremely distractible and has difficulty concentrating. When she tries to express her thoughts and feelings her eyes flutter and she stutters. It causes her deep frustration and anger. As a result, she is about two years behind in school because she has to learn in small increments.

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http://www.metrokc.gov/health/immunization/newsstories.htm

When Maddy was 2 1/2 months old she contracted pneumoccocal meningitis.

That morning she had been very lethargic and I could not get her to nurse. I called our doctor's office and told them her symptoms. I was told to come in mid-morning. By 10:00, she was moaning as I lifted her in or out of her car seat. This seemed strange and confusing. I took her to the appointment and seemed to get right in to be seen. The nurse took her vitals, and said, "I don't like the way she is moaning". The doctor came in, touched the top of her head

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