Simon - Give the Doc a break.
POSTED BY: TheSomnambulist
UPDATED: Saturday, January 6, 2007 22:09
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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
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If you think about it, almost all of the men (I'll exclude Wash) are socially inept in some way or another.
Jayne, as was stated earlier, has a problem with crudeness. He feels that he has the right to say what he wants, when he wants to say it, and heaven help anyone who tells him otherwise.
Simon has trouble with social mores. He misses the cues in conversations that would allow him to relate to other people.
Mal is also socially inept, but in a different manner. His archaic views of how the world should work prevents him from seeing how the world does work. Not to mention his sexist views of certain professions.
In some ways, I think that Wash is the only male on the ship that sees the world and relationships for the way they really are. Not saying he's perfect, but he's not as far behind the learning curve as the others.
Wow! Really? So the women are all socially capable but the men aren't? Is that what you're saying?
The planets "Venus" and "Mars" springs to mind
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
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When a guy is interested in a girl. . . well, it's nothing special.
Women are allowed to play hard-to-get, but guys are expected to jump on any bit of female flesh that smiles at them.
Actually I think that's a trait through all of Joss' shows.
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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
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I'm kind of in the same boat when ti comes to Kaylee and SImon in the series. I love them as a couple, pretty much all my fanfics center around Simon more or less because he's the one character that I identify with the most, and I hope that in the future, when I make my first real professional movie, Jewel and Sean arn't too expensive so that I can reunite them as my leads (But not have them essentially reprise their characters. If anything, I'd like them to reverse roles and have him be all bubbly and energetic and her be down to earth and repressed).
You know that is a really sweet thing to believe in. I for one hope you have the chance to work with them. What a conclusion to a tale would that be?
Good luck.
You made me smile.
The
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Originally posted by zzetta13:
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It's a little funny in the Message eps (I think) where S/K are in the ships corridor about a space monkey's breath from kissing.Then Preacher Book shows up. Here is a man that joins ppl together, yet in this case he scares them apart.
Ohhh nice observation!
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Now Kaylee is CUTE no doubt, but the poor fella had a sick sister to look after. His mind was elsewhere. He didn't have time for any of that.
That's the heart of the matter, is that too few look at the situation from Simon's point of view. He's on the run, disowned his parents, given up his forturne, given up his life's ambition of being the best doctor in the entire system,....and has to figure out what next to do w/ River! Where will they go, what will he do for a living? Stuff like that. Even if he had taken time to stop and think of Kaylee, he had to know in the back of his mind that he wasn't going to be on Serenity for too long, so what point was it to get invovled w/ her and break 2 hearts ?
I watched the BDM again last night, and it finally hit me just how out of bounds Mal was when he attacked Simon for not telling them about River. Simon knew the Alliance was after River, so he took her as far away as he could, so they wouldn't 'get' to her. But here's the part Mal is overlooking. Simon NOT telling Mal or the rest of the crew all Simon knew about River was probably for their own good. If somehow the Alliance knew anyone on the ship was keen on just exactly what River was, they'd likely all be dead. Of course, in hindsight, Simon could have told Mal,and Mal alone, but even so, by keeping the REST of the story from everyone else, Simon was trying his best to protect them as much as protect his sister.
Simon doesn't get near enough credit, imo.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Originally posted by zzetta13:Quote:
It's a little funny in the Message eps (I think) where S/K are in the ships corridor about a space monkey's breath from kissing.Then Preacher Book shows up. Here is a man that joins ppl together, yet in this case he scares them apart.
Ohhh nice observation!
Nice observation, to be sure. But I think Book is more inclined to join ppl together for a lifetime committment, and not so much for a quickie back in the engine room.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Huh! I just realized that scene was a visual pun- Book standing behind Kaylee and Simon kissing, reading out of the Bible. Like a wedding ceremony! Huh. I wonder if that was intentional.
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Originally posted by Psyborg:
Huh! I just realized that scene was a visual pun- Book standing behind Kaylee and Simon kissing, reading out of the Bible. Like a wedding ceremony! Huh. I wonder if that was intentional.
excellent observation! too bad it won't come to pass on screen for real.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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PSYBORG,AURAPTOR that is just the image I was thinking about when I posted the scene of the preacher,Kaylee and Simon. The joining of two ppl as one with a simple kiss. Not a marrage or anything just something simple that would signify a change in the relationship. Simon and Kaylee are maybe a foot apart in that scene and the viewer starts to get the impression that
"Hey this time they really are going to do it. They are going to kiss." With the arrival of S.Book though it just didn't happen. It just spoke something. It wasn't Mal or River that stopped to two from the kiss. It was the preacher. Don't know if that was intentional or not.
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>Huh! I just realized that scene was a visual pun- Book standing behind Kaylee and Simon kissing, reading out of the Bible. Like a wedding ceremony! Huh. I wonder if that was intentional.
Wow, I'd never thought of that. Would be interesting to hear Joss' take on that scene and see if it was intentional.
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