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POSTED BY: out2theblack
UPDATED: Saturday, January 6, 2007 11:31
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Thursday, January 4, 2007 8:35 AM

I wasn't all that bummed over Wash's death but Book dying stills gnaws at me.

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We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

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Thursday, January 4, 2007 8:59 AM

Well my confession is my dissapointment w/ the Train Job when it first aired (I had been kind of hyped up by the trailer). I really liked the characters but I felt like I was led by the hand as to who they were (told rather than shown)and almost every scene screamed "cowboys in space", also, at the time it seemed all villians in movies and tv were russian mafia so that put me off slightly (despite how charmingly evil Niska was). The ending redeamed it (kicking Crow into the engine) somewhat though. I remember telling my friend "this show has a lot of potential but it will never last". Later episodes hooked me, I was confused by the pilot airing last, however. Stupid f*x not trusting Joss, had they been in order I would have been begging for more, then rather than after it was already cancelled.


'bout 50% of the human race is middle-men, they don't take kindy to being eliminated.
-Mal

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Thursday, January 4, 2007 12:53 PM

All these opinions are completly valid, but it would be interesting to see what everyone would think if the show had lasted for seven years; Joss LOVES change so how much would the characters have changed and how would your feelings have changed for them.

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Thursday, January 4, 2007 1:35 PM

I hate that Wash was killed. Let me explain why though. If he had died ceremoniously or with purpose it would not be a problem. His death seemed unwarreneted and did nothing to move the story along. Book's death was a plot point. It really helped further motivate Mal but Wash's death did nothing. Even Zoe little bit of rage against the reavers seemed silly. I mean I get they were making her angry over Wash's death but neither seemed necessary to the plot or point of the story.

I'm baffled becasue in a sidebar of the Serenity Visual Companion Joss is quoted as saying that Wash is a character that he could see returning in a sequel??? Things that make you go hmmmm...

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Thursday, January 4, 2007 1:38 PM

Sorry to all in advance; but the lyrics to the theme have a cheese factor that is off the charts IMHO.

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Thursday, January 4, 2007 2:09 PM

Firefly confessions. Nope don't have one.

Serenity Confession? Yup.

In the scene where Mal addresses the crew in the Mess, asking them to do more than he's ever asked of them before, he looks directly at the camera and says "I aim to misbehave."

There's a beat, then a shot of the crew regarding him. I always expect them to burst out laughing at the ridiculousness of that line.

It's forced, it's corny, and it's out of place. And EVERY time I watch Serenity, that moment breaks my concentration and the movie's pull on me.

(I also am annoyed at the errors in the movie. Mal's name mispelled on the Alliance Cortex file, and identified as a Captain. Grrr. My biggest pet peeve. How could Joss have missed this?)


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Thursday, January 4, 2007 2:29 PM

I have to admit at first I couldn't stand Jayne at all. After Jayne's Town though and seeing Mal set him straight after Ariel I began to like him. I also don't like Simon very much, especially in the movie. He seems to become Mr. Tough guy standing up to Mal and all.
Book was another character I didn't like much until I finished the series. "What would a preacher be doing on board anyhow" I wondered. But he turned out to be one of if not my favorite character.

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The Bible's a bit fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps.

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Thursday, January 4, 2007 8:26 PM

I guess my confession is I saw the trailer on Fox for Firefly, though it did not do much for me, I thought it may be an interesting show. But I did not put forth the effort to watch it, only catching the beginning of Ariel and being turned off by it. At the time I was heavy into a MMORPG and spent most of my free time at the computer.

My first real experience with the 'verse was with the BDM, and Simon grated on me at first, but I ended up liking him towards the end. I'm usually pretty open to liking characters, so there was no single character I disliked. I did not get Book, until I bought the series DVDs and watched them, to me seeing the BDM first he seems a MacGuffin for get Mal motivated to take some sort of drastic action.

The characters I related closely to are Kaylee and Wash.



Hera7

Mechanic & Cook
"So thats where that bolt went to."

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Friday, January 5, 2007 7:08 AM

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Originally posted by MattFromGeekStuff:
I hate that Wash was killed. Let me explain why though. If he had died ceremoniously or with purpose it would not be a problem. His death seemed unwarreneted and did nothing to move the story along.



I think the point off Wash's death was to tell the audience that anyone could die at any time. Considering that he had just saved the ship and the entire crew with his piloting genius no one could see what was about to happen. In a typical story he either would have died during the crash, thus sacrificing himself for the good of the group, or he would have been untouchable for the rest of the film. Joss took a much more original approach by giving him a sudden, uncerimonious death. After that all bets were off. By the time the rest of the crew was dropping likes flies at the hands of the Reavers and Mal was getting his ass handed to him by the Operative I was completely convinced Joss was going to end his creation in one fell swoop. This was the ultimate purpose of Wash's death.

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We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

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Friday, January 5, 2007 11:21 PM

I guess my firefly confession would be I hate the buffybot in Firefly.

There is something so nerdy, bloke-like in inventing a buffybot.

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