FIREFLY Confessions...

POSTED BY: out2theblack
UPDATED: Saturday, January 6, 2007 11:31
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LWAVES

Saturday, January 6, 2007 12:38 AM

Gotta say that I hate the Buffybot in Serenity too. Specially the whole wedding bit. That's screen time taken from our BDH's. Should have at least had a real woman or just a robot servant or something.

My actual confession is that when I started watching the original UK run on SciFi I really didn't want to give the show a chance. I am a huge Buffy and Angel fan and was looking forward to Joss's next show. Then I heard it was cancelled before any episodes had been shown so I thought what's the point.
I almost didn't watch it. I watched the proper pilot and liked it but thought can I be bothered to invest in a show that will be over soon. Each week I thought the same thing, but (and this is the genius behind the show), each week I loved it more and more.
Now I couldn't imagine having not watched it and missing out. Even if I caught up later it's such a great feeling to be the one who told all my mates about it and perusaded them to watch it.

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"If I hear voices and someone is really there, does that mean I'm going REALLY crazy?"

KELAI

Saturday, January 6, 2007 2:20 AM

*To start off, this isn't a popular opinion here, but amoung other Firefly fansI have noticed more are beginning to support River-Jayne.

*I find Kaylee a tad annoying, especially on a bad day. If it was one of those days and you threw me in a cell with her, I don't know if I would end upkilling her. Okay, maybe not that bad as to killing her. But I rather be cooped up with Jayne.

* I HATE it when Kaylee goes crazywhen Simon says something wrong to her .. ."MY GOD, SIMON! HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT TO ME? I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CAN'T TELL ITS AFTERNOON OUT HERE IN SPACE! HOW INSENSITIVE! I CAN'T TALK TO YOU ANY MORE!" (was quoted from somewhere else, can't remember thoguh.)

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JLIN13

Saturday, January 6, 2007 2:45 AM

i went from hoping Jayne would die in the first couple episodes to loving him and becoming my favorite character

KPO

Saturday, January 6, 2007 5:22 AM

Hmm, good thread.

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To start off, this isn't a popular opinion here, but amoung other Firefly fansI have noticed more are beginning to support River-Jayne

Haha, Simon would love this match up.

My own initial response is that River shouldn't be grappling with anyone, the helpless girl thing rings too many paternal type instincts in me. The kind of loving she needs isn't the one kind that Jayne is capable of giving.

Perhaps after a couple of seasons she would develop into a more stable young woman. At this point, still able to read Jayne's mind all the time she might opt for that easy fling. I can't see that either one would be interested in anything more than that though.

DEBB

Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:31 AM

Ok...if we are talking guilty pleasures...I’m going for broke! May not be where this thread is going but...Mal naked. WOW...that was good day. Not sure what it really had to do with the plot. I mean they could have done with out it but I am so glad they didn’t! I would not mind seeing Jane naked. Or maybe them together...oh wow... I’ll be in my bunk…

Debb

KAYLEEGIRL

Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:47 AM

I've watched the show from the first airing of "The Train Job." I tuned in then because I was already a fan of Joss Whedon and Adam Baldwin and Gina Torres. At first I thought the whole cowboys-in-space thing just wouldn't work and almost turned the channel after hearing the theme song. So...what won me over? The cursing in Chinese. The first time a character did that I started laughing because it was such a great way to get around the censors.

After that first show, I fell in love the whole concept. I also knew as the weeks passed that it wasn't going to last. I started taping the episodes, suspecting I'd never get to see them again if I didn't. There was much dancing in Kayleeville when the DVD set was announced!

I really didn't get Jayne until I watched all the episodes on DVD. Now, he's almost my favorite character. But...I do love my captain. (Truly, I identify with Mal more than any of the other characters.) I mourn Wash, I'm fascinated by Book, but Simon? He just doesn't do anything for me. I don't see him and Kaylee staying together as a couple.

And by the way, I don't care what she said in the movie, River is still kwong-juh duh. Big time!

REGINAROADIE

Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:54 AM

My main confession is that I am not that big a fan of River. I know that she's probably the most popular character in the fanbase, and that in the movie, it's almost "The River Show", but to be honest, when I saw her on the series, she didn't really do anything for me. And it was actually when this playwrite came in to talk to us that I realized why I wasn't a fan of River. It's basically because she's not that much of a pro-active character.

The playwrite told us that when we are coming up with characters, that there has to be a level of proactiveness in them. That when something happens in the story, that the character makes a decision that shapes the plot and informs us of who he/she is. If a character just bends to the will of whatever is going around her, and not actually do something about it, it makes for a very bland character and story. I find Simon a much more interesting character because he;s actually done something. His amazing self-sacrifice makes him a fascinating character. Whereas for the most part, we havn't seen River do ANYTHING for the most part.

If you notice River in the series, 95% of the time, she's just standing in a corner or looking around and saying random words. Now those words might be foreshadowing or insight or whatever, but it just gets irritating when she doesn't speak in full sentences. Whe it comes to River, it seems that everyone is making decision for her. It's either the Alliance saying "We must get her!" or Simon and the crew saying "We must protect her." There's all this fighting over her, and yet River doesn't even say "Uhh, excuse me, may I say something?"

The only times River is an interesting character is when she actually DOES something. Like in "War Stories" when she takes the gun and shoots the three men down. Or in "Objects in Space" when she taunts Early and lures him out of the ship. Or in SERENITY when she runs out, grabs the bag, closes the door and slaughters the Reavers. THAT'S when she's an interesting character. The rest of the time, it's just me saying alongside Jayne "Just shut the fuck up."

That's why I have River go through a bit of a reinvention in my stories. I made her a bit more proactive in wanting to pursue her musical interests so that she'll actually make decisions for herself. And also for her to speak normally because I can't do River-speak. I'm pretty sure even Joss himself would have gotten fed up with writing River-speak and just go "Fuck it. She'll speak normally now."

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PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, January 6, 2007 11:31 AM

I really do not like Inara. And I don't buy the chemistry with Mal at all. He seems to have chemistry with/be attracted to her, but not the other way 'round and that bothers me. And she just avoids everything and can't be straightforward and is this big mystery... Ugh, I just get tired of it. I think the character has some potential, but the way she came out just grates on me. I like Nandi a lot more; I was sad when she died.
Book just isn't that cool. He's very well-acted, but I just don't think he's cool. What is he even doing on the ship? He got on with them for a flight to Boros, and it was never explained why he remains on the boat the whole series (until he decides to leave in the comics)
Kaylee severely grates my nerves at times. She's whiny and over-the top with ALL her emotions. Yeah she's cute and bright and sunny and all that, but she also whines like a little girl! Also, I honestly think she acts like a bit of a slut. An innocent and starry-eyed slut, but a slut nonetheless.
Unlike most people here, I really adore Simon. Not guilty about that, just wanted to put it out there. I think he has some of the best body-language in the show, and he's a great low-key hero who will do anything for his sister. In a big way, that relationship is one of my favorites on the show. It's not romantic at all, but they clearly love each other very deeply.
Zoe has been my favorite character since I set eyes on her. I thought then and still think now that she was more attractive than Inara, and a much more interesting character in just about every way. She acts like a woman, whereas Inara and Kaylee act like teenage girls in a lot of respects. So does River, but she is a teenage girl, so it's understandable. She, in fact, has a certain depth that no one else has because she's been through so much in such a short time. The only others who come close to that mature-by-pain character are Mal and Zoe.

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