If Bill Gates ran for president, he would win

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OPPYH

Tuesday, January 2, 2007 9:22 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Billy's a good guy? Did you not read how his main accomplishment was having his mom get him a sweet deal from the president of IBM? Did you not read how he stole, cheated, lied and stabbed his friends in the back for personal gain?

Unless, of course, you think those are good things ...

Buisness, and friendship are two entirely different things, and they should never mix.
Shrewd, and smart are his best qualities.

Now when I say he's a good guy, I will explain:
When there is an individual who is mega rich, and gives a small percentage to charity(around $60,000,000) each year, that is a good person. His buisness ethic, and human qualities are very different. Now, if his coduct were the exact same for both, there would be problems.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 2, 2007 9:35 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Now when I say he's a good guy, I will explain:
When there is an individual who is mega rich, and gives a small percentage to charity(around $60,000,000) each year, that is a good person.

Or a person who likes good publicity.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

RUE

Tuesday, January 2, 2007 10:09 PM

"When there is an individual who is mega rich, and gives a small percentage to charity(around $60,000,000) each year, that is a good person."

I personally suspect Melinda is his better half. She probably suggested it and he saw the opportunities.

OPPYH

Tuesday, January 2, 2007 11:10 PM

Being as rich as he is, of course there will be much negativity directed toward him, but how much is deserved, and how much is just envy? Bill Gates is the realization of the american dream. He pioneered an idea, and became rich.
He's not evil, and he doesn't want to conquer the world. How many billionares resteraunt of choice is Burger King? I make less than 30k a year, and I think i'm too good for Burger King.

RUE

Tuesday, January 2, 2007 11:55 PM

This is from earlier up. Read and get back to me.

Billy boy got where he did by having rich parents and having no scruples. Please note that Billy's programming 'talent' was in taking PUBLIC DOMAIN products (invented by others) and turning them into private u-soft property. His 'business acumen' lay in his contacts (his mommy got him the IBM contract - which he never fulfilled), lack of ethics and illegal methods.

"BASIC was first developed by John Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz at Dartmouth College in the mid-1960s. Basic had been around for many years before Bill implemented a version of it . ... it is not that impressive technically to take public domain code from one machine and port it to another. It was also very questionable (ethically) to sell a language who's definition was in public domain, and develop it on computer time borrowed from a school."

Age 20 1975 - "Gates & Allen, in a pattern that was to repeat time and time again, see an opportunity to rework an existing product (BASIC) for a new market."

"Age 25 1980 - Mary Gates (Bill's Mom) and a high level Executive at IBM (Akers) were chatting, and ... Well one thing lead to another, and Bill got a visit from IBM. This is another big secret to success -- be born into the right family, and get the right contacts."

"Bill Gates didn't even have a DOS, but he convinced IBM he was almost finished with one. (Another element of business Genius seems to be being a pathological liar). Perhaps (IBM's u-soft favorable contract) had something to do with the President of IBM telling the small team creating the PC to "see Mary Gates son Bill" that influenced them ..."

"Microsoft then bought DOS off someone else ... (which) was actually a cheap rip-off (clone) product of a friend of Gates ... - but therein lies another part of Genius; the lack of integrity/scruples."

And so on.

Come to think of it, yes, I think with his background he'd make a great politician. He's got all the right qualifications.

http://www.jmusheneaux.com/9000ff.htm

OPPYH

Wednesday, January 3, 2007 9:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
This is from earlier up. Read and get back to me.

Billy boy got where he did by having rich parents and having no scruples. Please note that Billy's programming 'talent' was in taking PUBLIC DOMAIN products (invented by others) and turning them into private u-soft property. His 'business acumen' lay in his contacts (his mommy got him the IBM contract - which he never fulfilled), lack of ethics and illegal methods.

"BASIC was first developed by John Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz at Dartmouth College in the mid-1960s. Basic had been around for many years before Bill implemented a version of it . ... it is not that impressive technically to take public domain code from one machine and port it to another. It was also very questionable (ethically) to sell a language who's definition was in public domain, and develop it on computer time borrowed from a school."

Age 20 1975 - "Gates & Allen, in a pattern that was to repeat time and time again, see an opportunity to rework an existing product (BASIC) for a new market."

"Age 25 1980 - Mary Gates (Bill's Mom) and a high level Executive at IBM (Akers) were chatting, and ... Well one thing lead to another, and Bill got a visit from IBM. This is another big secret to success -- be born into the right family, and get the right contacts."

"Bill Gates didn't even have a DOS, but he convinced IBM he was almost finished with one. (Another element of business Genius seems to be being a pathological liar). Perhaps (IBM's u-soft favorable contract) had something to do with the President of IBM telling the small team creating the PC to "see Mary Gates son Bill" that influenced them ..."

"Microsoft then bought DOS off someone else ... (which) was actually a cheap rip-off (clone) product of a friend of Gates ... - but therein lies another part of Genius; the lack of integrity/scruples."

And so on.

Come to think of it, yes, I think with his background he'd make a great politician. He's got all the right qualifications.

http://www.jmusheneaux.com/9000ff.htm

Your points are taken, but....there is such a thing called the spirit of invention. Kind of like this: if you are on to something, and have a direct idea of what to do with that something, and how to do it, you will do it by any means necessary.
Alexander Graham Bell did not invent the telephone. Check this out- Bell developed new and original ideas but did so by building on older ideas and developments. Bell succeeded specifically because he understood acoustics, the study of sound, and something about electricity. Other inventors knew electricity well but little of acoustics. The telephone is a shared accomplishment among many pioneers, therefore, although the credit and rewards were not shared equally. That, too, is often the story of invention.

My point is this: A caveman spots a small brush fire in the forrest, he grabs a long branch ignites the end of it, brings it back to his caveman friends in the cave, they make the fire burn bigger on more branches. Presto, those cavemen are eating roast brontosaur, with smoked fish appatizers in no time. Did the caveman who spotted the fire invent it? Heck no, he pulled off a simple task, but a task that was needed to progress the human species. That is the spirit of invention.

RUE

Wednesday, January 3, 2007 12:44 PM

But Billy boy wasn't on to anything except how to take software others invented and turn it into his property. Billy and u-soft have never been inventors, just parasites.

SHINYED

Wednesday, January 3, 2007 4:41 PM

It's a bit hard to knock Mr. Gates, considering all the money he gives to charity. What I personally object to about him are his choices of who gets his money.

He gives almost all of it to Aids and Aids related issues...I've never seen or heard anything about him giving money to things like :

Kids with cancer
Abused kids
Abused women
Kids with other incurable diseases (Make a Wish)
Crippled kids

He chooses to give his billions to Aids, a disease that is mostly a lifestyle choice....millions of sick kids and abused women don't seem to concern him.

RUE

Wednesday, January 3, 2007 5:48 PM

And you have to calculate how much of a sacrifice he's making, how much is done for tax reasons, and how much he's doing for business goodwill.

sacrifice:
If I'm making $10,000 a year with no other assets and give $500 to charity, it's a really big deal. I'm cutting into money I need for necessities. If I'm making a few billion a year with $50 billion in personal assets, and give away a million, that still leaves me with $49.9 thousand million. Hardly a step down in lifestyle by any stretch of the imagination.

tax benefit:
Billy is notorious for donating 'his' product (which was invented by others and was in the public domain) at full market value. Not only does he get a tax write-off, but he inculcates his software into education systems around the globe. Slick market domination, n'est-pas? He also was allowed to pay off his DOJ monopoly fines in u-soft product 'donations'.

goodwill
Aside form the tax and market $$ benefits (above), well, there is the 'goodwill' he earns. Does it work? Just look at the postings on the board. Apparently people think he's a genius and Robin Hood all in one. A personal success story who was just like you and me who 'made it' in business out of luck and pluck'. Who's now giving away his fortune to others. In fact he's from a privileged background. He stole from you and me twice - one in appropriating public goods and then again in selling them back to us. And he's 'giving' away our money at a rate which doesn't begin to diminish his lifestyle. Genius? Robin Hood? Hardly.

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Wednesday, January 3, 2007 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

sacrifice:
If I'm making $10,000 a year with no other assets and give $500 to charity, it's a really big deal. I'm cutting into money I need for necessities. If I'm making a few billion a year with $50 billion in personal assets, and give away a million, that still leaves me with $49.9 thousand million. Hardly a step down in lifestyle by any stretch of the imagination.

Charity is only good and noble if you bankrupt yourself in the process?

Quote:

tax benefit:
Billy is notorious for donating 'his' product (which was invented by others and was in the public domain) at full market value. Not only does he get a tax write-off, but he inculcates his software into education systems around the globe. Slick market domination, n'est-pas? He also was allowed to pay off his DOJ monopoly fines in u-soft product 'donations'.

Rich people should not be allowed a tax write-off like everyone else? Perhaps no one should be allowed a tax write-off for charitable donations. Then and only then shall we see the true philanthropists.

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goodwill
Aside form the tax and market $$ benefits (above), well, there is the 'goodwill' he earns. Does it work? Just look at the postings on the board. Apparently people think he's a genius and Robin Hood all in one. A personal success story who was just like you and me who 'made it' in business out of luck and pluck'. Who's now giving away his fortune to others. In fact he's from a privileged background. He stole from you and me twice - one in appropriating public goods and then again in selling them back to us. And he's 'giving' away our money at a rate which doesn't begin to diminish his lifestyle. Genius? Robin Hood? Hardly.

The jig is up Bill, stop giving away your ill-gotten money to charity. Buy yourself another few houses and take the rest with you when you go.

Posting to stir stuff up.

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