Saddam's On the Clock
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Monday, January 5, 2026 22:02
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Originally posted by rue:
How about differently biased?
http://www.house.gov/delahunt/halabja.shtml
Interesting political speech. And, yes, it's biased.
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Disprove any part of it.
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Originally posted by SevenPercent:
Certainly. I have outrage at any form of weapons brokering, regardless which country it comes from. But the minute you and some of the other right-of-center folks hear US, you think that's the only place we're levelling criticism against.
Ignoring the "right-of-center" allegation...show me somewhere in this post where you, Rue, SignyM, PirateJenny, Citizen, Chrisisall, HKCavalier, Bagherra, or Yinyang have criticized any country other than the U.S. We've already established that other countries have provided chemical/biological weapons precurser chemicals and know-how to Iraq, often in much greater amounts than the U.S. However, until I brought it up, no one mentioned them. So maybe my supposition that your criticism is limited to U.S. actions has some basis.
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Slick,
I'm waiting for you to disprove any part of my post and engage in substantive discussion.
Nice ad hominemn BTW.
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Originally posted by rue:
Disprove any part of it.
Hey, you quoted it, you should back it up. Sorry, Rue, but if you get to quote political speeches as fact without providing anything to support them, then I get the same privilege.
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It should have prompted the US to convene an international war crimes tribunal and isolate Iraq until Saddam and his cronies were brought to justice for their savagery.
The US can convene international tribunals on our own, and bring people to justice without having to mess with the UN or ICC? Cool. And no one else on the planet can request such a tribunal? Apparently so, since no one else did.
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Quote:Show me where I critised the US, or indeed even implied that the US was only at fault as you claim.
Originally posted by Geezer:
Ignoring the "right-of-center" allegation...show me somewhere in this post where you, Rue, SignyM, PirateJenny, Citizen, Chrisisall, HKCavalier, Bagherra, or Yinyang have criticized any country other than the U.S. We've already established that other countries have provided chemical/biological weapons precurser chemicals and know-how to Iraq, often in much greater amounts than the U.S. However, until I brought it up, no one mentioned them. So maybe my supposition that your criticism is limited to U.S. actions has some basis.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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dbl ... musta' been that gas attack from the party food last night ...
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Slick,
"The US can convene international tribunals on our own, and bring people to justice without having to mess with the UN or ICC? Cool." YEP.
http://www.beyondintractability.org/essay/int_war_crime_tribunals/
Currently, tribunals have to be sponsored by an organization like the U.N. or a national government.
"And no one else on the planet can request such a tribunal?" They did try. The US blocked it at the UN. 
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/history/2003/0117gas.
htm
However, in 1988 the US worked to prevent the international community from condemning Iraq's chemical attack against the Kurdish village of Halabja, instead attempting to place part of the blame on Iran.
So, got anything else besides word-smithing?
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:Show me where I critised the US, or indeed even implied that the US was only at fault as you claim.
Originally posted by Geezer:
Ignoring the "right-of-center" allegation...show me somewhere in this post where you, Rue, SignyM, PirateJenny, Citizen, Chrisisall, HKCavalier, Bagherra, or Yinyang have criticized any country other than the U.S. We've already established that other countries have provided chemical/biological weapons precurser chemicals and know-how to Iraq, often in much greater amounts than the U.S. However, until I brought it up, no one mentioned them. So maybe my supposition that your criticism is limited to U.S. actions has some basis.
"Show me where [the usual suspects] have criticized any country other than the U.S." So show me where in this thread you have criticized any country other than the U.S., since that's what I asked.
Edit: An apology to Gino for not including you in the 'didn't criticize other countries' list.
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Quote:But If I haven't criticised the US your initial premise is flawed.
Originally posted by Geezer:
"Show me where [the usual suspects] have criticized any country other than the U.S." So show me where in this thread you have criticized any country other than the U.S., since that's what I asked.
If you meant in the wider reaching articles of the RWED I can show you numerous posts where I've criticised other countries. However your question was loaded, it is attempting to prove people have only been blaming the US, if I have not blamed countries other than the US it is irrelevant to the purpose of the question if I have not criticised the US either, and given the purpose of your question it is dishonest of you to demand an answer when you can't prove the basics of your underlying premise.
If you ask an honest question, you will receive an honest answer.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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