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Saddam's On the Clock

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:15 AM

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so what did the US go into Iraq for... justice or oil ?


Both?

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:09 AM

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Originally posted by yinyang:
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so what did the US go into Iraq for... justice or oil ?


Both?

Yes, both: Just oil! *rimshot* Haha! Get it? I'll be here all week!

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:56 AM

HK, really - you should leave that kind of stuff to Chrisisall.

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:25 PM

Neither. One is fallacious; the other is too simplistic.

The whole war for oil stuff is just one big false cause fallacy. Just because oil exists in Iraq does not mean the war is for oil. It’s hard to imagine how the US could be getting more or cheaper oil as a result of its policy towards Iraq.

The justice thing is romantic, but overly simplistic, although probably more true then the oil argument. It is true that much of the Iraqi people were handed justice when their brutal tyrant was unseated, and it is also true that the liberation of Iraq has been a principle concern of the US since at least 1998. Still, I think there were other motivations that were probably more influential in the decision to go to war with Iraq.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:44 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
The whole war for oil stuff is just one big false cause fallacy.

The justice thing is romantic, but overly simplistic,




So if it wasn't the oil and it wasn't for justice...has anyone considered the possibility thay the war isn't really happening?

Kind of like the Democratic commitment to national security and economic growth...we talk about it, but its not really there.


H

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
So if it wasn't the oil and it wasn't for justice...has anyone considered the possibility thay the war isn't really happening?

I beleive Europe has probably considered that. In fact, it seems like that's often their approach to most things in the world.


"C'est pas vraiment se produit!"



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I beleive Europe has probably considered that. In fact, it seems like that's often their approach to most things in the world.


"C'est pas vraiment se produit!"

Well we tried the whole medelling thing, but it didn't pan out so we're leaving the empire building to you yanks.



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Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by yinyang:
HK, really - you should leave that kind of stuff to Chrisisall.


Thanks Yin, but I thought HK was pretty funny there.

I'm no Seinfeld Chrisisall

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Friday, December 29, 2006 10:43 PM

According to reports he could be executed around 10 P.M. Eastern Time, which is 6 A.M. Baghdad Time.

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RUE
Friday, December 29, 2006 10:56 PM

Let the pacification begin !

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