Dick Cheney's lesbo daughter becomes Mr Mom

I would like to thank Piratenews.

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Piratenews is a tool.

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He wasn't born that way, and just because you or him say that he was doesn't make it true. Thanks for replying again though FMF. As always, your input is good for a laugh.


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I don't think any man or woman has gone through life without fleeting sexual thoughts about the same sex at one time or another.

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6SJ, does your gay friend know about any of this you're slinging?

Do you honestly believe that human sexual orientation is a matter of "fleeting sexual thoughts?"

Is all sexuality the result of such diffident forces?

Was your own presumptive heterosexuality a choice as well, or was it genetic, and what proof do you have? Did you choose your heterosexuality based on some "fleeting sexual thoughts" about the opposite sex? Or did your sexuality hit you like a mac truck about the time your voice cracked like it did the rest of us boys?

What do you think happens to gay kids? If your heterosexuality is genetic, what went wrong with the gay kids? Do such kids simply not have strong sexual urges and so are prey to their "fleeting sexual thoughts?"

In case you simply haven't noticed, sexuality is one of the strongest biological impulses any living creature has. And yet, according to you, gay people don't have anything more compelling to guide their sexual development than the "fleeting sexual thoughts about the same sex" which anyone might have. Do you really think gay people are so defective?

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
6SJ, does your gay friend know about any of this you're slinging?

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As a matter of fact he does, thanks for asking. He's proud about being gay and he says that it is his choice. His pride allows him to have the feelings he does without having to blame it on genetics because deep down he is not ashamed of who he is.

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What do you think happens to gay kids? If your heterosexuality is genetic, what went wrong with the gay kids?

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This is also part of the problem, because for some reason you believe that I'm attacking the lifestyle simply because I say that it is a choice and not genetics. I would like for you to point out to me where, if at all, I said that something "went wrong" with them.


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I would like for you to point out to me where, if at all, I said that something "went wrong" with them.

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It's implied in your assertion that people become gay based on "fleeting thoughts." Unless you believe that heterosexuality is the result of similar "fleeting thoughts" (and I'm waiting for some answers to my questions, 6) you're saying that gays lack something heterosexuals have.

I don't think you're criticizing any "life styles" I think you got some mixed up notions about the nature of human sexuality.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I would like to thank Piratenews.

With all the partisan bickering and flat-out hostility that permeates this Real World Discussion fourm - at least we can all (well, most of us) come together and agree on one thing:

Piratenews is a tool.

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Hurrah!

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Thank you for your opinion HKC, but I do believe that you're as mixed up as I think you believe me to be mixed up about the nature of human sexuality.

However you choose to infer my words is completely up to you. And I really don't understand what you mean by saying that I said "...gays lack something that hetrosexuals have". Physically, we're exactly the same is what I've said. If anything, I'm saying that homosexuals neither possess anything less nor anything extra than hetrosexuals do.

There are many reasons one could turn to homosexuality in life, and I won't go into them here because there are many psychology books that you could pick up which could give you case studies on this and do a much better job describing these than I ever could here.

I am under the belief that even the most hard-core homophobic hetrosexuals have it in them to be homosexual. Quite possibly it is their own fear of that, say the embarassing hardon they got in the locker room when they were in highschool, that is enough to make them act out so vehemently against homosexuality in the first place. I think there is a much more thin line between homo and hetrosexuality than most people on either side of the issue would care to admit, and legitimately so, considering the way that homosexuals have been treated thruought history.

I can guarantee you that as homosexuality becomes more accepted over the years, particularly on television, you are going to see a much larger increase in homosexual activity between both sexes, not due at all of course to genetics, but because the environment will come to allow what was once so taboo. MTV already shows openly gay couples during it's lineups. More and more of their dating TV shows are centered around gay relationships. They're usually the icebreakers over there at MTV. There's also the fact to consider that less and less people are going to church... an influence whom up until recent years and their own revelations of homosexuality hypocracy and rape, were very respected and spoke out loudly against homosexuality.

10 or 15 years from now you're going to see homosexuality everywhere and two people of the same sex holding hands while walking down the street won't look anymore queer (pardon the pun) than two straight people in even the most backwoods parts of America if you give it another generation or two from then.

I really don't imagine it will be too much longer than that that you will actually see men walking women down the street on leashes and vice-versa... but that will probably be reserved for cities in California for a while before it too becomes a little more mainstream. I already know one woman in California who does this, but I won't be leaving her name here. I will say, however, that Dave Attell did stop her and talk to her on the street while she was walking one of her "pets" on a leash on his show Insomniac a few years back. We've all got kinks... None of them are genetic.

Did Marv Albert eat the panties because his chromosomes told him to?

So, I guess what I'm saying is that not a single person in the world is more genetically predisposed to homosexual tendancies than another. Unless there is some serious physical maladies or the parents did drugs while the baby was concieved and was carried, then there is very little difference between us all genetically.

To say that homosexuality is genetic is like saying that homosexuality is a genetic flaw such as Downs Syndrome or Sicle Cell disease and I think that THAT would be much more offensive. I'm sure that certain individuals in the past who were interested in racial cleansing would revel in the fact that homosexuality was genetic and the knowledge that they would be able to eradicate homosexuality simply by eliminating all of the homosexuals in existance.

Too many people on these boards are willing to give up much of their freedom of thought and choice to the government because of the unfounded notion that government is better at deciding what is good for us than we are. Now you would hav

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
He wasn't born that way, and just because you or him say that he was doesn't make it true. Thanks for replying again though FMF. As always, your input is good for a laugh.


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And your input shows, once again, that you are completely full of and a pompous . MY CHILD was born gay. He has known he was gay since he was 8. He didnt choose it, it chose him.




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