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Dick Cheney's lesbo daughter becomes Mr Mom

POSTED BY: piratenews
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 19:46
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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:46 PM

Hey PN,

I'm a survivor of incest. Incest has a way of imprinting us, so that we tend to "pull in" other survivors and perpetrators. My parents were both survivors of incest and they were both pedophiles. Their closest friends sure showed signs of being pedophiles. Before entering therapy, it was hard to avoid thinking that incest is pervasive in this culture, based on my personal experience.

But I understand that incest does this to us. Children naturally normalize what their parents do to them. If their parents beat them, they tend to learn that beatings are good for you and that beatings are a sign of love. Incest goes even farther because it damages the child's developing connection with reality itself. It creates in us an "incest world" where incest is the only real thing there is. Everything else is a lie, a cover, a denial of the truth.

Subjectively, this is all true up to a point. As I said, we survivors tend to identify only with other survivors to the point where, in my case, everyone I ever knew--my best friends in grammmar school, high school and college, my girlfriends, my favorite professors even, were all survivors. My relationships with all these people were abnormally close and all of them ended very badly. Even the college councelor I went to see when I had a nervous breakdown in the middle of my sophamore year exposed himself to me in the men's bathroom.

It was very easy for me to imagine that incest was the rule rather than the exception in the world.

Fortunately, I got myself some good therapy and developed a sense of self beyond my abuse. I've learned that the incest was only a chapter in my life and that I needn't define myself and the world in terms of incest anymore (I can, of course, revisit this stuff, as I'm doing in this post, but understand now that it's only a small fraction of who I am). I've gone on to have many friends and loved ones who are not survivors of childhood sexual abuse.

In the process of healing, I've gotten to know women who have chosen to sleep with other women because their fathers raped them. I've known men who've chosen celebacy or even the priesthood to escape their abusive pasts entirely. But I've also known pretty happy and spiritually integrated gay people.

I've known pedophiles intimately. Their sexualities are extremely damaged, infantile. They're not capable of healthy, mature relationships with anyone, even nonsexual ones of any depth. That's part of the reason they tend to flock together; they all have the same secrets, so they all know where to stop getting to know each other.

I would not be surprised if you were right about Dick Cheney and the President, but I don't see gays and lesbians as depraved. If you're right about Dick and George, I wouldn't consider them "gay." I don't see homosexuals as damaged, infantile psychopaths. Homosexuality, to my mind, is a fully developed adult sexual identity. Pedophilia is a pathology. The sex of the child raped by a pedophile has no relationship to anyone's healthy adult sexual identity.

Many gays I've known have been perfectly capable of adult intimacy and compassion. The pedophiles I have known have not.

HKCavalier

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