Jimmy Carter called out on anti-semitism!
POSTED BY: CrevanReaver
UPDATED: Sunday, April 8, 2007 10:36
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Guy who got himself impeached, and resigned in disgrace. Name was Tricky Dick Somebody-- nix on him...
Nixon was never impeached. Get the facts right before you post.
In the 20th Century, the former governor of Arkansas was the one who was impeached.
OK, you're right about that , if you split the hairs fine enough.
" He is the only U.S. President to have resigned from office. His resignation came in the face of imminent impeachment related to the Watergate scandal. Nixon's abuse of his office,..."
seems I remember the House voted yes on some articles of Impeachemnt, but I might be wrong about that, too.
He certainly came close. If he hadn't 'a "cut and run"...
But he still qualidies for the short list of worst...
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Nixon wasn't impeached on any articles. That's why he resigned. It was based solely on an inevitable impeachment. The resignation was to avoid any of that.
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Nixon was a great president. His so-called impeachment was a social dem coup.
Nixon and Carter got along swimmingly with one another.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Nixon was a great president. His so-called impeachment was a social dem coup.
Nixon and Carter got along swimmingly with one another.
Have to agree with Dream on this one.
Nixon's biggest mistake was saying that Helen Gahagan Douglas was "pink" right down the color of her underwear in his 1950 bid for her Senate seat. The liberal press never forgave him for that. That he also worked for McCarthy, didn't help, either.
The press never credited Nixon for the way he conducted himself in November 1960 when JFK's daddy bought him the White House. Nixon could've pulled a Gore, contested the election (and likely won -- as Joe Kennedy did have the fix put in several key districts in Chicago -- and probably elsewhere). But Nixon conceded the stolen election because the welfare of the country was more important than his personal political life.
Regarding Watergate, Nixon apparently was guilty of two things. #1) That he wasn't a very good judge of character, and picked some fellows for his re-election committee who were a bit overzealous (and felt that the law, as regarding "breaking and entering" didn't apply to them). #2) That when he found out about what they'd done, rather than hang them out to dry, he covered it up.
In hindsight, it's easy to say that he should've immediately fired the perpetrators (and their immediate superiors), and allowed them to be prosecuted for their clear violation of the law.
My guess, however, is that he was paranoid about how the media would handle the fact that some of his re-election committee broke into the Watergate Hotel, and felt he wouldn't get a fair shake in the press (and given their life-long hatred of him, he was almost certainly right about that).
If Nixon had done as he should have (and subsequently not been forced into resignation), Carter never would've gained the White House in 1976 (he barely defeated Ford as it was, even given the backlash against the Republican party because of Watergate). Who knows how things might've gone in Iran then? (Not to mention Iraq -- where, because of Iran, we backed that idiot, Saddam Hussein. And we all know where that's brought us.)
At the very least, we wouldn't be here talking about Jimmy Carter's incessant blunders and embarrassments to his country, as likely, none of us would've ever heard of him. (As in McGovern who?)
If only...
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Have to agree with Dream on this one.
Nixon's biggest mistake was saying that Helen Gahagan Douglas was "pink" right down the color of her underwear in his 1950 bid for her Senate seat. The liberal press never forgave him for that. That he also worked for McCarthy, didn't help, either.
The press never credited Nixon for the way he conducted himself in November 1960 when JFK's daddy bought him the White House. Nixon could've pulled a Gore, contested the election (and likely won -- as Joe Kennedy did have the fix put in several key districts in Chicago -- and probably elsewhere). But Nixon conceded the stolen election because the welfare of the country was more important than his personal political life.
Regarding Watergate, Nixon apparently was guilty of two things. #1) That he wasn't a very good judge of character, and picked some fellows for his re-election committee who were a bit overzealous (and felt that the law, as regarding "breaking and entering" didn't apply to them). #2) That when he found out about what they'd done, rather than hang them out to dry, he covered it up.
In hindsight, it's easy to say that he should've immediately fired the perpetrators (and their immediate superiors), and allowed them to be prosecuted for their clear violation of the law.
My guess, however, is that he was paranoid about how the media would handle the fact that some of his re-election committee broke into the Watergate Hotel, and felt he wouldn't get a fair shake in the press (and given their life-long hatred of him, he was almost certainly right about that).
If Nixon had done as he should have (and subsequently not been forced into resignation), Carter never would've gained the White House in 1976 (he barely defeated Ford as it was, even given the backlash against the Republican party because of Watergate). Who knows how things might've gone in Iran then? (Not to mention Iraq -- where, because of Iran, we backed that idiot, Saddam Hussein. And we all know where that's brought us.)
At the very least, we wouldn't be here talking about Jimmy Carter's incessant blunders and embarrassments to his country, as likely, none of us would've ever heard of him. (As in McGovern who?)
If only...
And don't forget Nixon was a MASTER at foreign policy. What he accomplished with the Chinese I think surprised everyone.
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Originally posted by DarkJester:
And don't forget Nixon was a MASTER at foreign policy. What he accomplished with the Chinese I think surprised everyone.
That goes without saying.
Nixon brought us to the table with both China and the Soviet Union. That was no small parlour trick, given our status with both of those nations in the two decades prior to his administration.It's unfortunate that his bad choice regarding how to deal with the break-in (after the fact) has tarnished his otherwise very exceptional administration.
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Carter’s views on the Middle East, and most other things, are pretty wacked, but he is still a former US president and the caller’s attitude was disrespectful. You don’t call into a program to speak with a former US president and go off on a name-calling tirade like that. Now considering Carter’s own attitude towards criticizing sitting presidents, it would seem he has little more respect for the office of the presidency, but that doesn’t make the caller’s belligerent attitude right.
Saying that Carter is worse then Yassar Arafat makes someone look silly. You can’t honestly make that statement and know anything about Arafat.
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Here's a San Francisco Chronicle article on the Jimmy Carter anti-semitism controversy:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2006/12/13/cstillw
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Here's an article in The Jewish Week:
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=13420
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Quote:If that's true, then by that barometer GW is a pre-meditated murderer.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Jimmy Carter is an embarrassment and a national disgrace.
But I suspect neither are actually the case.
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