Star Wars DVD boycott

POSTED BY: TallGuy
UPDATED: Sunday, February 15, 2004 03:49
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OUTLANDER

Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:19 PM

There are two thing that really bugs me about this new Star Wars DVD set which also bugged me about the Indiana Jones DVD set:-

(1) I hate the fact that you can't buy just the first movie in each set. You can't go out and buy Raiders of The Lost Ark or the Original Star Wars film in nice two/three DVD set. You have to buy the other two films in the set no matter if you want them or not.

(2) George Lucas is a notorious collector of Star Wars and Indiana Jones stuff, yet he seen fit to have only one extra DVD to cover the special features for three movies. George Lucas should have enough stuff to cover thirty DVDs not just one.

I never got the Indiana Jones set, because really only wanted Raiders of The Lost Ark and I also thought that the lack of special features and ultra plain packaging sucked really badly.

So what I am going to do is wait for Raiders of The Lost Ark to become a $1 weekly rental and then burn myself a copy, which will tie me over until George pulls his thumb out of his ass and releases a descent three DVD Set Ultimate Edition of Raider of The Lost Ark.

And I think I will do the same with Star Wars.

TALLGUY

Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:41 PM

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Originally posted by DeSangro:
Well, I'm probably going to buy the Star Wars DVDs. I know that I've made harsh comments about the prequels and I stand by those comments... but the original trilogy was responsible for firing up a love of science fiction that eventually led to Firefly. I saw all three Star Wars in the theatres in 1997, and to me they were pure magic. I actually really loved the Max Rebo band sequence in Return of the Jedi (Jabba's palace scene was one of my favorites). I guess this is a little bit like the altered scene in "OBJECTS IN SPACE": the only people who will see that episode as it was originally done will be the people who watched it on national TV. Now, with the DVD set out, Joss Whedon has inserted different dialogue into the conversation between Mal and Inara in the opening scenes to the ep. Why? Because that's the way that Joss Whedon, the creator of the show, wanted it to be done originally, but couldn't have done on national broadcast. If the Special Editions are the definative version that Lucas wants, okay, and I'll probably buy them, though the 9-disc Aliens DVDs will probabaly be a higher priority.

You know, I thought about OIS - here's the difference: Both scenes where filmed at the same time. It wasn't like he went back and re-did them. As I understand it, what we saw on TV was the fix for the fact that Heart of Gold wasn't going to be aired. (And note that the aired take is included.)

It's interesting that you mention Alien. In the liner notes for the extended Alien, Ridley Scott says that he doesn't LIKE the "director's cut" of Alien, he likes his original. But he says that for the fans, here's BOTH.

And the thing that REALLY bugs me about the SEs of Star Wars is that Lucas is really saying "screw you" to not just the fans, but to the original artists who worked on the film. What? It was ground breaking and won acclaim and changed the face of film making as we know it in 1977? Oh, well that's too bad. Next up let's go back an re-do the flying monkeys in The Wizard of Oz, and PLEASE for heaven's sake go back and fix those TERRIBLE airport effects in Casablanca!

I can't wait untill 20 years from now when Joss Whedon dumps that crappy CGI that Zoic did for Firefly. Boy, THAT'LL be a weight off!

Why doesn't Lucas go mess with THX-1138 or American Graffiti?

Bill
"We all know I'm the funny one."
"You ain't all that funny."

DESANGRO

Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:13 PM

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Originally posted by TallGuy:
Quote:
Originally posted by DeSangro:
Well, I'm probably going to buy the Star Wars DVDs. I know that I've made harsh comments about the prequels and I stand by those comments... but the original trilogy was responsible for firing up a love of science fiction that eventually led to Firefly. I saw all three Star Wars in the theatres in 1997, and to me they were pure magic. I actually really loved the Max Rebo band sequence in Return of the Jedi (Jabba's palace scene was one of my favorites). I guess this is a little bit like the altered scene in "OBJECTS IN SPACE": the only people who will see that episode as it was originally done will be the people who watched it on national TV. Now, with the DVD set out, Joss Whedon has inserted different dialogue into the conversation between Mal and Inara in the opening scenes to the ep. Why? Because that's the way that Joss Whedon, the creator of the show, wanted it to be done originally, but couldn't have done on national broadcast. If the Special Editions are the definative version that Lucas wants, okay, and I'll probably buy them, though the 9-disc Aliens DVDs will probabaly be a higher priority.

You know, I thought about OIS - here's the difference: Both scenes where filmed at the same time. It wasn't like he went back and re-did them. As I understand it, what we saw on TV was the fix for the fact that Heart of Gold wasn't going to be aired. (And note that the aired take is included.)

It's interesting that you mention Alien. In the liner notes for the extended Alien, Ridley Scott says that he doesn't LIKE the "director's cut" of Alien, he likes his original. But he says that for the fans, here's BOTH.

And the thing that REALLY bugs me about the SEs of Star Wars is that Lucas is really saying "screw you" to not just the fans, but to the original artists who worked on the film. What? It was ground breaking and won acclaim and changed the face of film making as we know it in 1977? Oh, well that's too bad. Next up let's go back an re-do the flying monkeys in The Wizard of Oz, and PLEASE for heaven's sake go back and fix those TERRIBLE airport effects in Casablanca!

I can't wait untill 20 years from now when Joss Whedon dumps that crappy CGI that Zoic did for Firefly. Boy, THAT'LL be a weight off!

Why doesn't Lucas go mess with THX-1138 or American Graffiti?

Bill
"We all know I'm the funny one."
"You ain't all that funny."

Touche`. It would be nice to have the originals, simply because then they won't be lost to history forever. I'd actually like to see a version of Star Wars that has the working print lost footage in somewhere, or maybe in a deleted scenes section. I read an article in Star Wars Insider about that.

Granted though, it is nice to have both the originals and director's cuts availible in a lasting format. Ridley Scott's two-disc deluxe version of "Legend" comes to mind. Both the director's cut and the US theatrical version are on it, and the two versions aren't so much greater or better than one another. Instead, in some ways, they complement eachother.

Still, I'm confused: how much of the original spaceship models effects did Lucas replace for the SEs? I'm too young to have seen the originals in the theatres, so I'm not sure. I thought Lucas just touched up the quality of the picture and sound and added in some special effects that they weren't able to do satistfactorily with the effects in the 70's and 80's. I heard someone saying that the fighter scequences were changed. Can someone enlighten me?

JASONZZZ

Saturday, February 14, 2004 8:36 PM

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Originally posted by SadLittleKing:

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JASONZZZ

Saturday, February 14, 2004 8:42 PM

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Originally posted by outlander:

So what I am going to do is wait for Raiders of The Lost Ark to become a $1 weekly rental and then burn myself a copy, which will tie me over until George pulls his thumb out of his ass and releases a descent three DVD Set Ultimate Edition of Raider of The Lost Ark.

And I think I will do the same with Star Wars.

Takes you an entire week to rip and burn one DVD? Wow, I thought my wife kept a strict schedule. I gotta go and thank her for letting me do anything at all.

Happy Valentines, poochie woochie.

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:49 AM

Sorry to beat a dead horse (or as my Republican friends say 'kick a little Ass'). For the record, this has everything to do with Star Wars, in some bizarre twisted kind of way that I can't really figure out or explain. So its not off topic. Really, its not.

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Originally posted by Knibblet:
It all comes back to the basic truths, Hero. You can twist it and justify it and distort it but here is what happened.

Our President justified this war by citing an "immediate threat of Saddam using WMD". We went to war.

There is no WMD. There was no threat.

ACTUALLY there were many reasons given. WMDs was a big one. The list also included: trying in 1993 to kill ex-President Bush, the first World Trade Center bombing, failing to comply with weapons inspectors (thats the ironic one), firing on US and British jets in the 'No Fly Zone', failing to return or other wise account for thousands of Kuwaiti citizens and one US pilot, and many others, too many to list here and several of which violate the 1991 ceasefire.

Hussein sought continuing confrontation and war. He had ten years to cooperate, but when everyone watched the buildings fall on Sept 11, did anyone doubt Hussein's days were numbered? I didn't. Even the President told us it was coming. He warned that we would be attacking those that actively supported terror. He warned of failing world sentiment. He even said it was going to result in American casualties.

Here:
"Our response involves far more than instant retaliation and isolated strikes. Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen...And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.) From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime. "- Bush, Sept 20, 2001

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A anti-social loner breaks into your house to kill you, while waltzing through the livingroom, he spots a cigarette burning on a cushion. He puts out the smoldering fire and uses the cushion to suffocate you. I'm guessing the authorities should congratulate him for averting a house fire?

I assume you mean to say America or rather President Bush is the anti-social loner. Maybe. I'm sure thats how the corrupt and jealous leaders of old Europe see him. And the hate filled liberals of America.

Make no mistake, most opposition to Bush comes from smoldering hate. Its a hate that began back in Nov of 2000 when NBC changed Florida from Gore blue to undecided white. Hatred that grew as frantic Democratic poll workers pinned all the anit-Bush hopes on punch cards held up to the lights. Hatred for a Supreme Court that ruled in a way they didn't want. They seethed at Bush's hand on the bible, blistered at his early legislative successes and boiled at the sight of children playing baseball on the lawn of the White House. Sure they pushed it aside for a few weeks after Sept 11. But time and opportunity has allowed that hatred to surface, and I think some, not all, but some of these liberals will be ashamed in years to come after time allows passions to cool and honost reflection to occur. But for now, its gonna be a long year.

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Bush lied or he was jerked around like a puppet on a string. Your choice, Hero.

If I have a choice in your narrow world, its that Bush led and we followed and now the world is a better place, but its still a long way home.

I offer you a choice. Get on your knees before the terrorists and tyrants, enslave your wives, brutalize your children, worship their God, their way and beg for the scraps from their tables. Or freedom. Your choice, Knibblet.

Oh, Star Wars is a traditional heroic myth presented in a uniquely American format. It has also made hundreds of millions of dollars worldwide. Back then the world was divided between Free Nations and

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