Star Wars DVD boycott
POSTED BY: TallGuy
UPDATED: Sunday, February 15, 2004 03:49
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Bah, Lucas went mad with power. Screw him and all his new Star Wars flicks. As for Bush, I wouldn't mind if he got kidnapped by ninjas. 
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Originally posted by ecmorgan69:
...And I still want the redone trilogy
Bleeaaaah... revisionist Star Wars junk. Mind you, the first one wasn't that bad... and in fact was a considerable improvement. But every single one of the remakes has at least one major change which made me shudder and go "WTF" at the screen.
To hell with Lucas and his all style no substance new stuff. (Namely Episodes I, II, and (presumably) III.)
History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.
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Originally posted by TallGuy:
I debated posting this as a seperate thread or not...
Here's how it is...
"Of course, the big question mark amongst fans has always been whether Lucas would allow the original, unaltered original editions of the trilogy to also be released on DVD. Not possible, said (Jim) Ward (Marketing VP, Lucasfilm), who confirmed that the upcoming set will feature only the 1997 Special Edition versions of each film.
So what are the faithful to do if they don't want to watch the altered 1997 editions of the trilogy? Either give in, or don't buy. "We realize there's a lot of debate out there," says Ward. "But this is not a democracy. We love our fans, but this is about art and filmmaking. [George] has decided that the sole version he wants available is this one."" ( www.dvdfile.com)
I'm taking the "don't buy" route. I bet (I hope) if we can actually hit Fox (oh, the irony) and Lucas' bottom line they might reconsider that "democracy" line. Imagine rows of Star Wars Special Edition DVDs collecting dust at Best Buy come Christmas?
We're Firefly fans! We've done the impossible (trying to anyway) and that makes us mighty! We've waited this long for Star Wars. Why not wait until they give us the real ones?
Bill
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Wait you mean the official version of Star Wars is that Grecko shoots Han first at point blank and MISSES? WHY GOD? WHYYYYYY?
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Originally posted by Knibblet:
My new mantra is anyone but the lying murderer we have in the White House now. If your argument is that Bush didn't lie, then I'll settle for incompetent, easily led, murderer.
Put simply. Somebody tries to kill us, we got a right to try and kill em right back.
Now you see a guy beating up on his little neighbor, maybe you step in and break it up. Later that guy keeps givin you the eye, you know what I mean. Talkin behind your back. Trying to run you outa town. Then some of his buddies take a cheap shot while your back is turned. Maybe you send those buddies runnin. But you see this guy and he might be holdin a gun, gettin ready to backshoot you. Ya got a right to shoot first. Ok, later you find out he didn't have no gun. Sure you feel bad, but as your going through his pockets you find proof that he's killed hundreds of thousands and tortured and maimed countless others. Maybe now you don't feel so bad.
I feel bad that we didn't find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But every body pulled from a mass grave makes me feel a bit better.
Listening to some of these anti-Bush people makes you wonder if they'd have had the balls...er...moral courage to stand up to Hitler (after all, the Germans never attacked us, and we didn't find out about the Holocaust till long after the war started).
Oh, and buy the Star Wars DVDs or not, who really cares...I got mine.
H
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Hero wrote:
Listening to some of these anti-Bush people makes you wonder if they'd have had the balls...er...moral courage to stand up to Hitler (after all, the Germans never attacked us, and we didn't find out about the Holocaust till long after the war started).
You should read a little more, Hero. Our government ignored the Holocaust. If you wish to follow the logic of 'get rid of evil' then we didn't do our duty to 6 million murder victims.
Read a little about the passenger ship St. Louis and how our government returned the nearly 1000 Jewish refugees into the hands of the nazis. This was 1939.
It all comes back to the basic truths, Hero. You can twist it and justify it and distort it but here is what happened.
Our President justified this war by citing an "immediate threat of Saddam using WMD". We went to war.
There is no WMD. There was no threat.
Our laws forbid us from attempting to remove a foreign head of state. This is now how we justify the war - we 'removed an evil man'.
A anti-social loner breaks into your house to kill you, while waltzing through the livingroom, he spots a cigarette burning on a cushion. He puts out the smoldering fire and uses the cushion to suffocate you. I'm guessing the authorities should congratulate him for averting a house fire?
Bush lied or he was jerked around like a puppet on a string. Your choice, Hero.
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I could careless about the differences, there were maybe 90seconds of film added or changed total that did not add up to change the story line itself. What it did do was allow the man to make his movie the way he had wanted to - without his earlier budget and tech restraint. For gods sake, the man sold out to whom? He had his own artistic vision enough to form his own tech company, sound company, studio, effects company. He had the balls and guts to punch this movie out onto celluloid on his own dime. I am getting mine on DVD - been waiting for it. Don't very much care if you are getting yours or not.
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Originally posted by Hero:
Gee...I kinda liked the Special Edition. I have the trilogy on VHS. I'm not defending Episode 1 and 2, just saying I like the enhanced effects and cut scenes in the originals.
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H
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For crying out loud... How the heck did a bunch
of bitching about Lucas's DVD release turned into long lengthy dissertations on how we feel about DSII and anti-Bush rant thang. Alrighty then, let's get it on.
Look, I am not much of a Bush lover (and I certainly am not comparing him to Pres. Roosevelt). But Listen up:
For most of the beginning Nazi's aggression, our country stood by and let it happen. "Oh, it's over there", "The guy (hitler) just need a little room", "Oh, he just wanted a little bit of Poland", "Oh, he just want a bit of the Rhine.", "Oh, technically it belongs to them...", "He's over there, he will never get here." on and on. Roosevelt (well, ok, he didn't do it alone, but I meant his leadership) found whatever excuses he could to get the Europeans aid, money, guns, whatever, short of sending troops. He was willing to help someone else fight "their" war, to make sure that crappy, nasty people don't run a chance of slaughtering anymore more people.
For crying out loud, we are helping people from getting murdered by this guy. We can't see over our blinders long enough to think that these folks need help. Saddam (and I too like to pronounce it in a way which means "goat herder") tortures people, gassed his neighbors, and for fun, he takes his soldiers to beat up his own soldiers. His sons tortured and maimed their atheletes b/c they didn't perform well (ahhh, the motivation that must've been)... I am glad that somebody in our guv'ment took the leadership to say that those guys needed help. If they had to make up some excuses to go do it, I say "Alright, don't expect me to believe that or the lullabies, just go there and kick some ass".
Back to your normal programming on bitching and moaning about Luca's DVD set.
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Originally posted by Knibblet:
Hero wrote:
Listening to some of these anti-Bush people makes you wonder if they'd have had the balls...er...moral courage to stand up to Hitler (after all, the Germans never attacked us, and we didn't find out about the Holocaust till long after the war started).
You should read a little more, Hero. Our government ignored the Holocaust. If you wish to follow the logic of 'get rid of evil' then we didn't do our duty to 6 million murder victims.
Read a little about the passenger ship St. Louis and how our government returned the nearly 1000 Jewish refugees into the hands of the nazis. This was 1939.
It all comes back to the basic truths, Hero. You can twist it and justify it and distort it but here is what happened.
Our President justified this war by citing an "immediate threat of Saddam using WMD". We went to war.
There is no WMD. There was no threat.
Our laws forbid us from attempting to remove a foreign head of state. This is now how we justify the war - we 'removed an evil man'.
A anti-social loner breaks into your house to kill you, while waltzing through the livingroom, he spots a cigarette burning on a cushion. He puts out the smoldering fire and uses the cushion to suffocate you. I'm guessing the authorities should congratulate him for averting a house fire?
Bush lied or he was jerked around like a puppet on a string. Your choice, Hero.
"Just keep walkin, preacher man."
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Originally posted by Static:
I don't give a good gorram about Star Wars or anything else. Just gimme back my gorram Firefly. . .FIRST on the Big screen to apologise for cancelling the series, and THEN the new series because it never should have been cancelled in the FIRST place.
I second that.
By the way, Bush is a lying, corporate-hugging jerk who wraps his true nature in a false morality and patriotism.
And I find it truly obscene that so many men would fault Clinton for lying about adultry when most married men are guilty of the same crimes (commiting adultry and lying about it). And some women, too. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Originally posted by Kurukami:
Bleeaaaah... revisionist Star Wars junk. Mind you, the first one wasn't that bad... and in fact was a considerable improvement. But every single one of the remakes has at least one major change which made me shudder and go "WTF" at the screen.
To hell with Lucas and his all style no substance new stuff. (Namely Episodes I, II, and (presumably) III.)
History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.
Made you shudder and go "WTF"? Like what? With the exception of swapping out old antiquated special effects for state-of-the-art special effects, what was done to these movies? Oh yeah, Lucas put the deleted scenes back in, too. I can see how removing a few continuity problems can be annoying to the SW fans who resist change. It's like arguing the pluses and minuses of the new BSG miniseries with the die-hard fanatics - oops, I mean fans...
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I don't care much about changing the Max band scene, I'm extremely annoyed about the "Han shot first" change.
It really alters Han Solo's character by softening the Greedo scene. Not to mention it looks like shit the way Han just digitally moves sideways when Greedo shoots at him first.
It's so sick and wrong to change that. Lucas mainly claims the Special Edition is due to better technology but he is really wrong to mess with Han Solo's character.
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