Star Wars DVD boycott
POSTED BY: TallGuy
UPDATED: Sunday, February 15, 2004 03:49
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Ok, I know my nonstop defense of Star Wars is probably getting annoying, but here I go anyways.
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Wait you mean the official version of Star Wars is that Grecko shoots Han first at point blank and MISSES? WHY GOD? WHYYYYYY?
Simple-Greedo is what we call in bounty hunting circles "extremely incompetent."
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And I can't really understand why nobody uses orbital bombardment (in Ep 5 they explain that there is a shield, but there's no real planetary defenses in Ep 1 or 2).
Remember that these people haven't fought a major war for like a thousand years. Still, that is perplexing. Maybe the Jedi command didn't want to massacre the Geonosian factory workers.
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Listening to some of these anti-Bush people makes you wonder if they'd have had the balls...er...moral courage to stand up to Hitler (after all, the Germans never attacked us, and we didn't find out about the Holocaust till long after the war started).
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Umm, yes they did attack us. If you recall the sinking of several British ships that involved the death of American passengers.
Go back to history class.
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George is just being a shit and not letting the original be put on DVD. Why ... he felt it was 'unfinished'. Bladerdash!
Shoot, he would make nearly TWICE as much gitus {$$$} by making ALL versions available.
Now on the other side of the 'unfinished' coin, take a look at Robert Wise' versions of "Star Trek - The Motion Picture'.
The folks at Foundation imaging really took pains to match the 'grain' and look of the original.
Wise had a legit complaint - STTMP was unfinished and WAS rushed into the theaters - Post Star Wars too! Effects maker Able screwed the production and was 'fired' ...
Anyhoo, Wise went to Paramount and asked if he could 'finish' the film ... and thus the "Special Editions" of Trek movies was born.
There is a BIG differance in the '79(?) STTMP and the 2000 'Special Edition'. But no real changes to the story. Nothing like "Greedo shoots first" garbage in Lucas' 'Special Editions'.
Savvy!
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Umm, yes they did attack us. If you recall the sinking of several British ships that involved the death of American passengers.
Go back to history class.
Umm, not an attack on American shipping. Many Americans are killed overseas in bombings and other war/terroist related incidents. We did not 'go to war' for these incidents and murders.
If your assumption is true, then why did it take Pearl Harbor to influence America to enter the war - in the full blown fashion that the USA did AFTER Pearl Harbor and thus getting the backing of the U.S. citizans?
Bandy NO semantics... and check YOUR history.
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Listening to some of these anti-Bush people makes you wonder if they'd have had the balls...er...moral courage to stand up to Hitler (after all, the Germans never attacked us, and we didn't find out about the Holocaust till long after the war started).
America never "stood up to" Germany in WWII. We declared war on Japan, their ally, so they and Italy were obligated to declare war on us. The British and French declared war on Germany because they had an alliance with Poland. All the other nations were either attacked by Germany or were unimportant in the war, like Iceland.
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Originally posted by Succatash:
I don't care much about changing the Max band scene, I'm extremely annoyed about the "Han shot first" change.
It really alters Han Solo's character by softening the Greedo scene. Not to mention it looks like shit the way Han just digitally moves sideways when Greedo shoots at him first.
It's so sick and wrong to change that. Lucas mainly claims the Special Edition is due to better technology but he is really wrong to mess with Han Solo's character.
Actually, that is a pet peeve of mine also. I think I already posted that in this thread. Is it annoyingly PC, softening Han Solo's image from scoundrel to an almost Ewokesque warm-and-fuzziness? Yes. A tremedous detriment to the updated trilogy? IMHO, not at all.
I still prefer Firefly, though
Obviously, since we aren't at the Star Wars website arguing about the Firefly DVDs..."You can't take the sky from me..."
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Well, I'm probably going to buy the Star Wars DVDs. I know that I've made harsh comments about the prequels and I stand by those comments... but the original trilogy was responsible for firing up a love of science fiction that eventually led to Firefly. I saw all three Star Wars in the theatres in 1997, and to me they were pure magic. I actually really loved the Max Rebo band sequence in Return of the Jedi (Jabba's palace scene was one of my favorites). I guess this is a little bit like the altered scene in "OBJECTS IN SPACE": the only people who will see that episode as it was originally done will be the people who watched it on national TV. Now, with the DVD set out, Joss Whedon has inserted different dialogue into the conversation between Mal and Inara in the opening scenes to the ep. Why? Because that's the way that Joss Whedon, the creator of the show, wanted it to be done originally, but couldn't have done on national broadcast. If the Special Editions are the definative version that Lucas wants, okay, and I'll probably buy them, though the 9-disc Aliens DVDs will probabaly be a higher priority.
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Right on.
Now my remaining question is what happened to the opening monologues that were originally done by Mal and Book? I haven't seen those on any of the DVDs. Could they be an Easter Egg? Or were they just omitted?
They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....
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I can't recall where I saw it (possibly aint-it-cool-news) but there has been a rumor that Lucas has been working on even more changes/enhancements to the original trilogy beyond what we have already seen. I don't know if it is true or not, but one rumor stated he intends to revert back to the "Han shoots first" scenario.
Personally, I prefer the original versions, considering that he did enhance and clean up some of the FX shots for video release just a few years before the Special Editions. However, I will more than likely purchase the DVD set, at least buying it for my son if not also for myself, simply because that is what will be available.
But if Lucas is the money-hungry whore so many paint him to be, the best solution would be for him to release both versions in the same set, ala the Alien Quadrilogy. That way everyone could be satisfied, even though that set might be very expensive.
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It's funny that a lot of people seem to think he's this greedy S.O.B. It hink he's actually just shrewd at making money from his ideas and work. The smartest thing he ever did was retain the rights to "Star Wars" and everything that comes from it.
For me, the real improvements for the movies in the later versions are all the space combat sequences. I think the newer CGI combat sequences are the way Lucas would have liked to show them in the 70s if the technology had been there.
As far as Episodes #1 - #3, will somebody please tell George to stop writing the dialogue? Oh yeah, and while I'm at it, tell him to stop writing period. He can really do wonders with the visuals, but his clunky, forced, painful-to-the-ears dialogue makes the movies more tedious to watch than they need to be.
Ok, enough ranting.
They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....
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