Star Wars DVD boycott

POSTED BY: TallGuy
UPDATED: Sunday, February 15, 2004 03:49
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SPOOKYJESUS

Thursday, February 12, 2004 6:35 PM

Two words -

Screw Lucus

KNIBBLET

Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
And I can't help thinking that Palpatine is like the Clintons. He starts out as Bill Clinton, being all things to all people (1992-2000), but at some point in Ep 3 (2000) he reveals his evil self and rules as Emperor (Hillary) (2008).H

My new mantra is anyone but the lying murderer we have in the White House now. If your argument is that Bush didn't lie, then I'll settle for incompetent, easily led, murderer.

http://www.thnt.com/thnt/story/0,21282,901315,00.html
Shaken father writes to president
Published in the Home News Tribune 2/05/04

Dear President Bush,

With heavy heart, tears in my eyes and a home full of sorrow, I pick up my pen to write you about a brave soldier, 2nd Lt. Seth J. Dvorin, U.S. Army. My son was killed in Iraq on Feb. 3, 2004 fighting in a war.

Seth was a good boy, well-mannered, smart, kind and understanding.

He joined the Army in an effort to serve his country. And serve his country he did. Seth made the ultimate sacrifice.

Burying a child will no doubt be the hardest task that his mother and I shall ever have to do. The one question I have, and the one question I would like you to answer, is, "Why did my son and every other soldier that was killed, maimed and wounded have to suffer settling your vendetta?"

My son is gone just when he was laying a strong foundation to build upon for the rest of his life.

Now, President Bush, his life has been snuffed out in a meaningless war.

Where are all the weapons of mass destruction, where are the stock piles of chemical and biological weapons?

Please President, pray for all our fallen heroes and as a tribute to these heroes get our boys and girls out of Iraq now, before too much more blood is shed.

Since you waged this unnecessary war on Saddam Hussein the world has become a horrible place to live in.

I know my boy is safe now, in a new world free of hate and prejudices where GOD is his president, but you tell me President Bush why he had to go so soon and in such a violent way.

Respectfully yours, Richard M. Dvorin

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

THEDUKE333

Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:28 PM

Whelp.. Hero it looks like it is just me and you.

I am about to get flamed for the first time by a fellow Browncoats.

I personally am very excited about the DVD's coming out. I dont own a VCR anymore. I have invested alot of money into the dream entertainment system I have now, and I am looking forward to enjoying the trilogy all over again. I did purchase the 1997 version on VHS and the changes didnt bother me. I do understand people who love the original and would prefer it not being messed with. I guess the best thing to do is to release both versions. I liked the extended cave scene on Hoth. I thougt it looked pretty cool. Plus from the commentary i saw on the quality improvements, i dont have a problem with them making the same scene look better. As for EP 1 and 2, well I do like being in this universe again. If he made 20 more Star Wars movie, i would go see them all. Do I wish he did some things differently? sure....Do I wish the Gorram idiots at Fox didnt cancel Firefly? Sure...but what can you do? If Lucas gave me an opportunity to sit down with him and ask me what he should do differently with EP 3, I would tell him to tone down the CGI....Everybody knows how it's done, and can spot it from a mile away. It takes away from the realism???

Anyway, very excited about the good news being leaked to us about Firefly, and yes i am excited about Episode 3 and the September DVD's...

Go gently with me...after all I am still a fellow browncoat.

TheDuke333

Keep flying

SNIPER

Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:47 PM

I'm going with the special editions. It really doesn't bother me that much.

KURUKAMI

Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:18 PM

Bah. Lucas has interesting ideas that work best when he gives them to someone else and gets out of the way, as evidenced by the fact that Episode I and II both blew chunks by comparison with the original three. His vision in the original Star Wars was solid, but he wisely gave the directing to Irvin Kershner and the writing to Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan for Empire, and followed a similar path for Jedi.

The "Special" Editions have been tarted up with "new and improved" special effects which sand over a few rough spots, but mostly ignore the blatantly obvious and less impressive FX problems. Examples include the noticeable matte lines on the pit beastie in Return of the Jedi, and the TIE fighters popping up literally out of nowhere in the big space battle at the climax of the same movie.

That's completely beside the fact that, well, GREEDO NEVER SHOT FIRST!!! And the cheesy new snow monster in Empire (the imagination draws so much more of a frightening picture than Lucas's new, lame-assed beastie). And *shudder* the new band/music in Jedi. Not to mention the bizarre "every planet instantly knows about the death of the Emperor" ending that got glued on to Jedi's end.

I'll have no qualms at all about not purchasing Lucas's jury-rigged remake.

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

ECMORGAN69

Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TallGuy:
I debated posting this as a seperate thread or not...

Here's how it is...

"Of course, the big question mark amongst fans has always been whether Lucas would allow the original, unaltered original editions of the trilogy to also be released on DVD. Not possible, said (Jim) Ward (Marketing VP, Lucasfilm), who confirmed that the upcoming set will feature only the 1997 Special Edition versions of each film.

So what are the faithful to do if they don't want to watch the altered 1997 editions of the trilogy? Either give in, or don't buy. "We realize there's a lot of debate out there," says Ward. "But this is not a democracy. We love our fans, but this is about art and filmmaking. [George] has decided that the sole version he wants available is this one."" ( www.dvdfile.com)

I'm taking the "don't buy" route. I bet (I hope) if we can actually hit Fox (oh, the irony) and Lucas' bottom line they might reconsider that "democracy" line. Imagine rows of Star Wars Special Edition DVDs collecting dust at Best Buy come Christmas?

We're Firefly fans! We've done the impossible (trying to anyway) and that makes us mighty! We've waited this long for Star Wars. Why not wait until they give us the real ones?

Bill
"We all know I'm the funny one."
"You ain't all that funny."

I'm probably inviting a flame-war from some who don't appreciate change. I've seen all the Star Wars movies in the movies, and that includes the original releases in 1977, 1980, & 1983 of Episodes #4 - #6. In all honesty, I much, much prefer the new late-90s versions of Episodes #4 - #6. Lucas improved the special effects dramatically (of course), inserted scenes that were originally cut that enhanced the storyline, and just generally improved the movies. If I had one beef with the changed movies, it's how Lucas turned PC and changed the whole Greedo-Han Solo shoot-out

, so that it looked like Greedo fired first. Too bad that's not how it went the first time around

So, in conclusion, I'm glad that the newer versions are the ones on DVD. I have the original version on VHS, and I just can't stand watching it anymore.

Not that it matters since Firefly kicks it's ass anyway

"You can't take the sky from me..."

ECMORGAN69

Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Knibblet:
My new mantra is anyone but the lying murderer we have in the White House now. If your argument is that Bush didn't lie, then I'll settle for incompetent, easily led, murderer.

First off, this is like way off topic, folks.

Second, I much prefer Bush in the White House to the lying, thieving bunch of miscreants that sullied it for the eight years before.

Clinton and his criminal gang.

Don't let that letter fool you. Plenty of soldiers lost their lives before Bush took office. It's just that anything Bill did was okey-dokey by the media. And if you think that Clinton didn't get anyone killed, let's ask the families of 19 Delta Force and Rangers killed in Mogadishu in 1993 ("Black Hawk Down" was an incredible movie.) That was just one example of a feckless, ineffective, half-baked foreign policy that was allowed to continue for eight years in places like Rwanda, Bosnia, Kosovo, the Middle East, etc., etc. The only differrence is that the liberal media sucked up to Bubba the whole time and bashes Bush when the wind changes direction.

So, in conclusion, I still prefer the newer versions of Episodes #4-#6.

"You can't take the sky from me..."

GHOLA

Friday, February 13, 2004 1:37 AM

^Can we please keep politics out of this discussion folks?

But as for the Star Wars trilogy I honestly don't think the changes in the special editions are enough to warrant the complaining that goes on about them even though I do wish Lucas would release both versions so that the fans could decide which they prefer. I'll probably get the trilogy on DVD but not for a while as my VHS copies are in good enough condition.

ECMORGAN69

Friday, February 13, 2004 1:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ghola:
^Can we please keep politics out of this discussion folks?

Here, here. While, admittedly I'm a big mouth who definitely contributes in such arguments, I still agree.

...And I still want the redone trilogy

"You can't take the sky from me..."

VENA

Friday, February 13, 2004 3:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Static:
I don't give a good gorram about Star Wars or anything else. Just gimme back my gorram Firefly. . .FIRST on the Big screen to apologise for cancelling the series, and THEN the new series because it never should have been cancelled in the FIRST place.

Can I get a Hell Yeah!

The man sold out. He was a whore to the all mighty $.

The sooner we accept this fact the sooner we can move on.

I say let's be mighty and not buy till we get the REAL movies, not the product of this cash crazed mind.

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Any Body But Bush.

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