Floor Thirty-Three and a Third: Nicely In Between
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UPDATED: Monday, December 4, 2006 13:24
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I'll give you my opinion if you really really want it
....No seriously, I have been playing CofH religiously and used to play a lot of Commandos. I like to think I am a RTS fan...
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Originally posted by citizen:
Civilisation and so on?
I am a big fan of the Civilisation series.
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Actually that works sort of works I've had an idea for a game I was going to try and write, nothing special graphically just a 2D Isometric projection, but I wanted to know if anyone plays those sorts of games or similar to get opinions as to whether it would work.
Well what's the idea?
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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Originally posted by citizen:
CMS:
I went to the Post office to send your box off this morning. You're going to have to wait for awhile because postage was going to cost £69 (~$130) so I'm going to put it all into several smaller boxes, because apparently that'll work out cheaper.
Ooh! Obviously you bought me too much stuff!!
It only cost me about $40 to mail off your package.
Serenity,
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8
http://callmeserenity.livejournal.com/
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It's not some much the amount, but some of it is weighty. The package weighs 5kg, and Royal Mail only takes 2kg packages air mail, so any more and they use parcel force international that costs a lot more. So I'm going to break it down into three 2kg packages and send those.
Dave, Kane, anyone else, I'm typing it up now.
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Kaneman:
I'd welcome your opinion.
I was thinking of something of quite grand scale. Most RTS games are set on small areas and specific objectives, so I was thinking of something with the scale of Civilisation, where a map can encompass the entire world, and on a giant scale (so travelling from one end of the world to the other can take ten minutes in game time).
The game would take place in a time period from pre-ancient to medieval (maybe later, depending).
In a lot of ways it would be similar to Rise of Nations, you'd build cities and those would define your nations borders, as well as natural obstacles such as Oceans, Rivers and mountain ranges. You'd also be able to conquer other nations cities and take control of them, and all the units that have that city as 'home' would join your side, but they'd still hold an allegiance to their original nation for a time, and a small percentage would become an underground militia, so you'd still have to use troops to keep the peace and fight the underground movement even after the entire nation has fallen. I'd also have an armies effectiveness affected by things like moral and fatigue, so that an army that has won every battle will be more effective than one that has lost every battle, or that has less to fight for, or an army that has marched a long way and/or recently fought would be less effective than a fresh one. Also an army would include healers that can be set up as hospital tents so that injured units can be healed during battle.
Also to enforce a proper idea of logistics and improve in game trade, supply lines and allow siege warfare resources would be local rather than global. When peons collect resource they'd dump them into a cache and have to collect them from there before they can be used. So if you construct a building that needs timber, a peon would collect the timber from a forest and dump it in a timber mill, then the builders would collect the timber from the timber mill and take it to the build site. In a similar way units would consume food (rather than requiring food to produce) and would have to periodically pick this food up from granaries, supply carts or the environment, or they start to grow ill and eventually die. Also famine and so on could cause riots, civil unrest and cities seceding from your nation.
Because of this trade would actually have a real in game purpose (rather than just being a means to generate gold like in AoE). If city A can get food but not wood and city B can get Wood but not food they can trade their excess for what they need. I'd have a different idea for resources as well, I was think Gold, Stone, Wood and Food. Resources would be infinite or sustainable (i.e. If you chop down all the trees in a forest they're gone, but if you let the forest repopulate itself every now and again they'd be infinite). Gold would probably be infinite, but there would be few mines, likewise with stone, Wood would be sustainable and Food would be both sustainable and infinite depending on how you collected it.
For nations rather than choosing the nation (like Britain, Spain, America etc) your nations attributes and personality would depend on your environment. So if you started in a cold climate you're nation would construct small closed buildings, easy to keep warm, if a more Mediterranean environment you can expect to build open cool buildings. Similarly a nation from a cold climate would have an advantage over a Mediterranean nation in a cold climate, technologically and physically, and vice versa.
I was thinking of a basic facility to create custom units, helping to give a non fixed more dynamic research structure, for instance a trade cart may be driven by horses, but by replacing the horses with oxen you'd get a slower cart capable of carrying more weight.
Because there's obviously a lot of micromanagement here, possibly to much for anyone to handle if your empire gets to be of any size, there would be the facility to add AI helpers, Mayors to run your cities, Generals to run armies, Admirals for Navies, that will
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Citizen - That all sounds fascinating, and I think I understand what you are on about.
Not that I ever have the patience to play these things, but it sound's good.
Ok, Elemdee! Shopping today, the supermarket had in little packs of Ritter chocolates, like packs of 12 mini-bars (which, considering the each mini bar is about half a dairy milks worth, is quite a lot of chocolate!), I got you the yoghurt pack and the mixed nougat/praline/yoghurt pack.
They also had one with cornflake crispy bits/mint/caramel/whateverelse it was that I can't remember in, that I could go back and get.
Seeing as I woefully underestimated postage costs, i'll have to wait a little to send them, but in the mean time, I need an address.
Talking of addresses, any one as wants a christams card this year (and i've been convinced by my sister to try making my own, so they are worth getting just for laugh's) need's to send me their's.
Mai, I got you'r pm, i'll send it along now.
And apropos of nothing - i've been bit. By an insect. In november. No such thing as global warming my a***.
Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt
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As far as RTS go, I've played all the Warcrafts and Starcraft (<-still the king based on what i've played, which is admittedly not much). I've also played the first two AoE. I really enjoy the games, but I get my ass handed to me so soundly in online games that I don't play them as much as FPS or MMOs (not that I've played much of either, lately).
-edit- I could never really get into the Civilization games...but I think it's that I can't stand the turn based strategy games. I really, really suck at them, haha. Either way,
I've decided to focus on doing 3D work for now, so I think my gaming is going to be cut way back (not that i game a lot as it is).
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Originally posted by seryn:
Ok, Elemdee! Shopping today, the supermarket had in little packs of Ritter chocolates, like packs of 12 mini-bars (which, considering the each mini bar is about half a dairy milks worth, is quite a lot of chocolate!), I got you the yoghurt pack and the mixed nougat/praline/yoghurt pack.
They also had one with cornflake crispy bits/mint/caramel/whateverelse it was that I can't remember in, that I could go back and get.
O.O i think i love you. is there anything i could get for you here in the US to trade?
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Aw, its nice to be loved.
Frito's!
I've been going on about frito pie, and my family are intrigued.
We've managed to extort my uncles chilli recipie out of him, but can't find any decent substitute for the frito's.
Plus. nice and light for the postage!
Do you want me to get the other box of flavours? I think cornflake crispy sounds intriguing personally.
EDIT: oh but i've just noticed the time - i have to go to bed! g'night. x
Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt
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"and a small percentage would become an underground militia, so you'd still have to use troops to keep the peace and fight the underground movement even after the entire nation has fallen"
That I really like.
"Similarly a nation from a cold climate would have an advantage over a Mediterranean nation in a cold climate"
This I like even more.
"for instance a trade cart may be driven by horses, but by replacing the horses with oxen you'd get a slower cart capable of carrying more weight."
That is cool.
Well, it sounds like it would be a blast. You have obviously put a lot of thought into this. Seems like there is mucho detail in this. Good luck. Fill us in when it's in production....
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