The Next Heroes Thread
POSTED BY: Cybersnark
UPDATED: Monday, January 22, 2007 13:17
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'Cause the other was getting overlong, and the Eccleston one wasn't really a discussion thread.
Previous threads:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=8&t=24268 (the original)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=8&t=25278 (the Eccleston thread)
There was another, but it's slipped into archivespace.
The adds for "the next two weeks" have started popping up where I am. The three scenes I haven't seen before are Claire with another blond cheerleader behind her (sudden thought: could Claire not be the cheerleader we're supposed to save?), Nathan and Clair sprinting from a shadowy figure (Sylar?), and (I'm guessing) Sylar tossing Claire against a wall hard enough to knock her out. There was also a scene of Glasses calling Claire's name.
Looks like we'll be hitting the dreaded mid-season hiatus after the next couple of weeks. I'm hoping they show reruns during the break, but that's falling out of style lately; we'll probably get a new show, then not see Heroes again until next spring. 
EDIT: "HRS_HiroAndo1.jpg" has finally appeared.
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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Thanks for the new digs, cybersnark! 
I haven't seen any new commercials yet. I'll be looking for them tonight.
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On Wednesday, Nov 1st:
Quote:CALLED IT!!!
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Those are locker doors. Like you'd find in a high school. Apparently being thrown telekinetically, either at Pete or by him, using someone's powers.
The new comic's up: http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/, focusing on Eden this week, and giving some real insight into her attitude toward her power --and her responsibility.
I can't find the Easter Egg this week; it's not on the last page. Keep searching around.
OTOH, last week's Easter Egg has finally appeared.
And from the other thread:
Quote:Well, we've seen that Hiro jumps timelines when he travels (no dead Isaac), so anything's possible.
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
- Hiro went back six months into the past? According to the waitress that Hiro's buddy talked to he apparently was around for months before disappearing just a few weeks before she was killed. If he was in the past and around for months, why is the waitress still dead? Where is Hiro? He was supposed to be at the Homecoming according to Isaac's painting. Did he alter the timeline when he went back to save the waitress? Did that action invalidate Isaac's vision of the future.
As for the timelines shifting, the reason Ando would still recognize Hiro would be because six months ago, there would've been two Hiros: one in Japan just discovering his powers, and the other in Nevada bonding with Charlie.
This is why I hate time travel; it's impossible to tell whether something is an effect, a cause, an alternate timeline, or a pre-effect (since causality tends to flow both ways in hypertime).
Quote:There's gonna be a confrontation now between Claire & her father: all the cards are gonna be on the table. I'm hoping Claire will be able to explain the situation (and Isaac can vouch for Peter), so Mr. Bennet will step in. The arrest will be easy enough to "disappear." Nathan may never even find out.
- Peter gets arrested. Boy is this going to be a mess. He is covered in blood, none of which is Jackie's, but she is dead and the small town will be looking to pin the murder on someone. Will Claire & her dad come forward to clear him? Will Nathan come to help him? How will it affect Nathan's chance at office?
Quote:This'll be another confrontation. Peter may forgive him, but I can't see Nathan being reasonable; I think he's gonna end up being a bad guy. If he doesn't believe in Pete after what he's already seen, I doubt he ever will. He's too much of a politician.
- What will the fallout be between Nathan and Pete for Nathan's attempt to destroy the painting? I think Pete will forgive him & understand why he did it, but it may serve to further widen the already existing gap between the brothers.
He may end up being the "Senator Kelly" of this universe. I can see him pushing for mutant registration if it becomes a political hot button (which means Peter would become a liability since he could expose Nathan as a mutant himself --and we all know how politicians deal with liabilities).
Quote:Or March, given how fashionable mid-season hiatuses are these days.
- Did Jessica really shoot DL? Guess we have to wait until next week for that.
I think it's clear enough that she shot him, but Nikki may have been able to make the shot go wide, or Micah's warning may have given DL enough time to ghost.
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All I can say about last night's episode...DAMN! Loved it.
Peter and Claire have good chemistry. Better than he has with Simone, anyway.
Then again, he'd have better chemistry with a lamppost than with Simone...
Speaking of Peter, he better hope he can retain Claire's healing power for a while, because Nathan is gonna friggin' kill him.
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I think there's going to be bad blood between them on each side for different reasons. Peter would be pissed at Nathan for blotting out the image on the painting, and Nate would be angry at Peter over (what else) his political career.
Just out of curiosity, given that show is open to introduce new characters with different powers over it's course, what kind of poerson/power would you like to see?
Personally, I'd like to see a character that has a religious slant to him. One of the reasons I loved Nightcrawler in X2 was the fact that he had a spiritual clarity about his mutation. That he considered himself to be on something of a holy crusade. I'd like to see a character that has maybe either Claire's or Issac's power (either healing or predicting the future), but with Hiro's conviction (absolutely stoked that he's on a crusade and chosen above all to have this power) and considers his powers as God given, instead of the next part of human evolution. And if not their powers, than maybe a power that has deep religious connotations.
Maybe a partygoer whose popular since he can turn water into wine.
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"We have five million Cybermen. How many are you?"
"Four"
You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?"
"We would destroy the Cybermen with ONE Dalek. You are superior in only one respect."
"What is that?"
"You are better at dying."
Trash talk between a Cyberman and a Dalek. It doesn't get any better than that.
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Also, and I just realized. The big scene in this weeks ep when Peter and Claire are on the steps of the school. Does anyone else see the slight nod to classic cinema in that moment? Anyone whose taken Film 100 should know this.
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"We have five million Cybermen. How many are you?"
"Four"
You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?"
"We would destroy the Cybermen with ONE Dalek. You are superior in only one respect."
"What is that?"
"You are better at dying."
Trash talk between a Cyberman and a Dalek. It doesn't get any better than that.
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Quote:I actually hope they reign in all these crazy powers. I would feel better if there was some rhyme and reason to the stuff, then that it appeared as if they were thinking it up on the cuff.
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Just out of curiosity, given that show is open to introduce new characters with different powers over it's course, what kind of poerson/power would you like to see?
Quote:Maybe you could elaborate for those of us that aren’t familiar with Film 100.
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Also, and I just realized. The big scene in this weeks ep when Peter and Claire are on the steps of the school. Does anyone else see the slight nod to classic cinema in that moment? Anyone whose taken Film 100 should know this.
I actually think I may have taken that course, but I’m equally sure I learned nothing.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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It's a refrence to the famous "Odessa Steps" sequence in the Russian classic BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN. Anytime any film class brings up the Soviet style of montage, they always use this sequence as the textbook example. This sequence has been paid homage to in both BRAZIL and THE UNTOUCHABLES. But anytime you see in a movie soldiers marching down the steps of a government building with guns, a baby carriage bouncing down steps, or someone getting shot and the image of their head snapped back and their glasses shattered all over their face, that's an homage to that sequence.
The above is a link to that montage.
Would have been a bit cool if they actually recreated the famous montage for the show, but maybe that would have been taking it too far. Just the name Odessa is good enough homage.
I'm sorry. I'm such a film geek, and we're all geeks here, I just figured that everyone knew about the Odessa steps from BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN at least through cultural osmosis. Like how everyone knows that Rosebud's the sled, sorry if I ruined it for everyone.
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"We have five million Cybermen. How many are you?"
"Four"
You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?"
"We would destroy the Cybermen with ONE Dalek. You are superior in only one respect."
"What is that?"
"You are better at dying."
Trash talk between a Cyberman and a Dalek. It doesn't get any better than that.
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Quote:I'd like to see a timid speedster.
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Just out of curiosity, given that show is open to introduce new characters with different powers over it's course, what kind of poerson/power would you like to see?
Remember Guy, from Galaxy Quest? And how he knew that he was the token casualty who dies to show that the situation's serious?
You have any idea how many dead Flashes litter the DC multiverse? Becoming the Flash is like a death sentence.
So: a speedster who grew up reading comics --he remembers Crisis on Infinite Earths (dead Flash), the end of Impulse (dead Max Mercury), Infinite Crisis (another dead Flash), the JLU cartoon (dead Flash in an alternate timeline, dead Flash in the future), Kingdom Come (undead Flash). . . When he discovers his super speed he suddenly realizes that he may have drawn the short straw. . .
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Quote:Sure, we’re all geeks, but don’t sell yourself short. Your knowledge of film is impressive. I know I don’t know this stuff, but I was happy to learn about the Odessa steps, which evidently is a critical piece of the puzzle in the symbolism of many movies/shows.
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
I'm sorry. I'm such a film geek, and we're all geeks here, I just figured that everyone knew about the Odessa steps from BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN at least through cultural osmosis. Like how everyone knows that Rosebud's the sled, sorry if I ruined it for everyone.
I know nothing about Film. Not for real. I’ve seen I,Robot, Serenity and Underworld about eight times each and I have all the Star Wars Movies on DVD, but I’ve never actually watched Citizen Kane or Battleship Potemkin. I did watch Birth of a Nation, although all I remember about it was incomprehensive scenes of men on horseback.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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