How will our beliefs change in 500 years?
POSTED BY: Siri
UPDATED: Friday, November 24, 2006 17:15
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I wonder how our world view (or universal view may be more accurate) will change in 500 years? Watching Firefly and Joss Wheadon's picture of a possible future creates a vision of what might be. The characters are realistic, human and multi-dimensional. When I read or watch really good historical fiction, I get the same feeling.
We make decisions both on a personal belief system and our governments on a global level based on shared beliefs. I'm new here but as I've said - while I lean left of center - I certainly don't want the "government" meddling in my business. I am not opposed to taxes and I think it's our duty as human beings to care for those who need our help. I would prefer the elected government whose salaries I pay thru my taxes to be responsible in that area. I DO NOT want religion mixed up in my politics. That's just me.
So those folks who make the big decisions do so based on an agreed upon belief system, reality by consensus one might say. That we agree upon our reality to a greater rather than lesser extent.
Quite frequenty our views and beliefs change - over many years - slavery was accepted and still is in places. Women's rights is another. Dominion over the earth and the exploitation of resources and there are many more beliefs some more significant than others that have changed over time.
So now we (US and allies) have decided that democracy (our style of it), capitalism and everything that goes with it is the best for the rest of the world. The Bush administration has made statements to that effect - particularly in the Middle East. When I responded to an earlier post saying I thought Bush, etal, were doing what they thought was right I was referring to this scenario.
To complicate things further, we have two major religions lining up and taking sides, namely Christianity and Islam. What has changed here? Is there a plan?
I'm curious what others might think about how our worldview and belief change over time. Sorry if this is wordy. I've tried to be succinct and still clear.
Siri
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Quote:Nothing has changed here, it's been that way for nearly a thousand years.
Originally posted by Siri:
To complicate things further, we have two major religions lining up and taking sides, namely Christianity and Islam. What has changed here? Is there a plan?
Ever heard of the Crusades?
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We will either find a way to permanently control our impulses and to stop populating up to the maximum momentary carrying capacity, or we won't have a future.
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Originally posted by citizen:
Ever heard of the Crusades?B]
I have heard of the Crusades as a matter of fact - thus my concern. But I do believe some things have changed and will continue to do so whether we like it or not.
"Still working on it."
Siri
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Quote:I wasn't being patronising.
Originally posted by Siri:
I have heard of the Crusades as a matter of fact - thus my concern. But I do believe some things have changed and will continue to do so whether we like it or not.
But my point is, nothing much changes. Mainly just the players and why they say they're doing what they're doing.
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Quote:I wasn't being patronising. But my point is, nothing much changes. Mainly just the players and why they say they're doing what they're doing.
Originally posted by citizen: B]
Citizen, No offense taken. I just find it frustrating that we hide behind religion and rather depressing to think a lot hasn't changed so much since the time of the crusades. I want it to change - now!
"Why is it you always think I'm talking about God ..."
Siri
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nothing will change unless we come to grips and comprehend this simple concept- the people who print the money control the world! its that simple! these people are sitting atop the greatest concentration of true wealth on the planet.. meanwhile printing fiat money and indebting us to our consumer vices. the irony is that these people layed the foundation for the strife and inequality of the world, and now theyre blaming us for it; and they intend to murder 6 and 1/2 billion of the worlds population to illeviate the problems. theyll throw bird flu, global warming, terrorism and economic crisis at you to force you and your family into submission to big brother, corporate indentured servitude and eventually concentration camps..
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You see here's the problem I have with the concept of THEM. The quintessential truth behind the conspiracy is more or less without fail it's a way of saying "it's not US it's THEM". It's much easier to imagine men in some hidden hole somewhere drawing up plans for world domination just because that's what Socialists/Communists/Nazis/Jews/Aliens/Occultists do than to have to face the fact that bad things happen because ordinary people who read the morning paper over coffee and toast and read the children bedtime stories also sometimes go out to work at the Konzentration Lager.
I think if we were to accept that it's US that do these things we might start thinking about what that means for ME. If it's THEM doing these things it really can't be MY fault, I don't have to examine my own actions, because it's THEM that do these things, I'm not one of THEM, I'm one of US.
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The human race has a depressing history of allowing its social hierarchies to reach unstable heights of power and wealth, until it all comes crashing down in revolution. It happened to the Pharoahs, the Chinese Emperor, the French aristocracy. The other thing that humans do with depressing frequency is to totally outstrip their resources and face ruinous collapse.
Now that we have literally no expansion room we will HAVE to get a grip on our own impulses and the direction of our development, or we will face calamitous future when our vastly reduced decendents have impossibly narrowed choices.
I think we, as a species, are for the first time in millions of years facing a turning point.
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