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POSTED BY: rue
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 17:07
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Oh, is that accessed by a LINK? No wonder the text didn't show up on the web page. HOW ABOUT THAT ! It wasn't there !
Look, I have things to do. Unless you have something better to say, I won't be responding.
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Oh dear.
Well, jumping in with both feet... let me get my waders first...
Quote:Yeah, and....? Kerry's testimony was unfortunately all too true. I don't know how many of you are old enough to clearly remember the Vietnam war... prolly most of you aren't... but I do. VERY clearly. It was a dirty war, and killing civilians was the norm, not just in massacres like My Lai but thru liberal use of carpet bombing, napalm, and Agent Orange, which dumped thousands of pounds of dioxin and contaminated our troops as well. Progress, such as it was, was measured in body counts. So before you go shooting off your mouths and look like fools, you might want to watch "Hearts and Minds" http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=156 put together from newsreel footage of the time where you get to see US Marines kicking bound prisoners and shoving them to their deaths out helicopter doors.
In 1971, after your Winter Soldier conference funded by Jane Fonda, you... testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that American forces "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."
Quote:That is also true. And while I'm not sure that the Iraq war is as "dirty" as the Vietnam War (the Pentagon learned from Vietnam to control war news is all directions) the latest and most robust estimate of Iraqi dead is 650,000.
You said that "young American soldiers" were "going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."
I fail to see how 2+2=4 is an extremist statement. Only people who are trying to hide from truth would find it so.
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Since I read ToonHall every blessed day, I think I'll just post a selection of those hate-filled rants as they come my way. For all the right-wing-nuts on the board. 
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Originally posted by rue:
Oh, is that accessed by a LINK? No wonder the text didn't show up on the web page. HOW ABOUT THAT ! It wasn't there !
Look, I have things to do. Unless you have something better to say, I won't be responding.
Well, it wasn't on the front page, but it was on the site. Don't get into semantics with me, if you were too lazy to read the site that's your own problem. And you arguing against it without haveing read the site just shows that you are either a)lazy, b)ignorant, c)foolish, or d)all of the above. Thanks for coming out.
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Originally posted by rue:
Since I read ToonHall every blessed day, I think I'll just post a selection of those hate-filled rants as they come my way. For all the right-wing-nuts on the board.
Because they're any worse than you and your band of radical leftists. Frankly both groups make me sick. Most of you, and by 'you' I'm refering to both the extreme left and the extreme right, have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and just eat up the mounds and mounds of
your parties force feed you without doing any kind of research that isn't slanted or biased. Rather than point fingers at one party or another and blame them for all these problems, why don't you get off your asses and do something to better this country? This isn't a pissing contest, stop acting like children. You're not going to accomplish a damn thing by making yourself look like a fool on a message board. So, why not put your money where your big mouth is and make a change instead of waiting for others to make them for you.
Now, unless any of you have anything constructive to add to this discussion (I refrain from using the term 'argument' because that implies a level of candor and intelligence that seems fleeting in this thread) I think it should be laid to rest.
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babywiththepower
"Rather than point fingers at one party or another and blame them for all these problems, why don't you get off your asses and do something to better this country? So, why not put your money where your big mouth is and make a change instead of waiting for others to make them for you."
Just because I come to this site every few days, why do you PRESUME that I don't actually, you know, DO anything? Let's see ... my JOB is making a better environment. Donated lots of time to the city recyling commission. Donate lots of $$ - tithe actually - to people trying to preserve the environment. Take care of family. Union steward (unpaid). All in all I work HARD at trying to make this a better world.
And what do YOU do ?
If you don't answer I'll take it you do - nothing. Except of course personally attack posters here based on nothing more than your own crappy ASSumptions.
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Originally posted by rue:
Oh let's see ... my JOB is making a better environment. Donated lots of time to the city recyling commission. Donate lots of $$ - tithe actually - to people trying to preserve the environment. Take care of family. Union steward (unpaid). All in all I work HARD at trying to make this a better world for the next generation.
And YOU ? What do YOU do ?
I don't know what your job is, but the environment is being raped the world over. You may help preserve your little patch of land, and for that I am truely grateful, but globaly I doubt you're company is having much effect.
Recycling anything but metal is actually hurting the environment more than it's helping it. True it helps the economy (i.e. more jobs, comunity funding, etc) but the waste created from recycling projects, bleech waste from recycling paper, for example, have to be dumped somewhere, and no matter ho safe a company claimes to be, that stuff will be in our water supply or poison our soil before long. Entire forests are grown simply to make paper, we are not in a position of running out. Same can be said about the sand needed to make glass. Doubt we're going to run out of sand ever.
If your money is going to organizations like Green Peace and PETA, you're wasting your time and hard earned money. I don't have it readily available, but you should look up the founder of Green Peace and read all the reasons he's given for leaving the organization. It's very educational. And PETA openly supports ecoterrorism.
As far as what I do, well, for starters I served this country in the US Army until an injury forced me out. In the scheme of things I was one soldier among many, but I did everything I could do to ensure the freedoms you enjoy so much. I'm working on organizing a petition to institute a vote in Illinois to refuse to accept the Real ID because it's a violation of countless civil rights. I'm an avid supporter of groups like the NRA that constantly go to bat protecting our Second Ammendment rights. I'm going to start getting actively involved in groups that want to start inhibiting all the handouts given to illegal aliens. To name a few.
You might be trying to save the world, and good on you for that. What I said in my post was "why don't you get off your asses and do something to better this country?" The key word there being country. The rest of the world can do what they want, American's need to start worrying about America. All you have done in your ranting here is talk alot without really saying anything. You've simply talked about what evil people the group in opposition to you are with nothing but one site showing what extreme followers of that group have to say. You made a hasty generalization that was unfounded and completely unfair, and people responded negatively to that.
What Kerry said was shitty, whether you believe it to be a joke or not. He is a worthless piece of shit and I hope someone makes him choke on his words someday. What he said was a venomous remark to myself and any other American that stood up and had the strength of character needed to put on that uniform, and personally he can take his appology, if he ever makes one, and shove it up his ass. I've got no use for him. And it has nothing to do with the fact that he's a Demoncrat, I hate both parties equally, so don't put words into my mouth and say that I'm just another one of those "right-wing-nuts" as you so ignorantly put it earlier.
Edit: (7:45am CST) I just noticed how much your post changed after I wrote this one. Interesting that you'd log on to change it but not respond to this one.
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Quote:Baby- you're so hate-filled it's bleeding through your post and drippping all over my keyboard. You don't even make sense... all I get from your post is that you're mad as hell. Just bc you served in the armed forces doesn't give you a "pass" on being a rational human being. What makes you so very very angry?
What Kerry said was shitty, whether you believe it to be a joke or not. He is a worthless piece of shit and I hope someone makes him choke on his words someday. What he said was a venomous remark to myself and any other American that stood up and had the strength of character needed to put on that uniform, and personally he can take his appology, if he ever makes one, and shove it up his ass. I've got no use for him. And it has nothing to do with the fact that he's a Demoncrat, I hate both parties equally, so don't put words into my mouth and say that I'm just another one of those "right-wing-nuts" as you so ignorantly put it earlier.
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Originally posted by rue:
The SITE contains no such language.
Almost contains, kind of contains, implying it contains - does not mean it contains such language.
Brush up on your geek-speak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_site
The site does contain that language, on one of its pages. Saying something is not on a site just because it isn't on the home page would be like saying this thread isn't on fireflyfans.net because the entire address at the top of the page isn't http:/fireflyfans.net
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Baby- you're so hate-filled it's bleeding through your post and drippping all over my keyboard. You don't even make sense... all I get from your post is that you're mad as hell. Just bc you served in the armed forces doesn't give you a "pass" on being a rational human being. What makes you so very very angry?
What about that portion of post you quoted was irrational? Did you hear what Kerry said? It didn't matter what he intended by it, what he said was very disrespectful to those serving, and I'm sorry, but once something is said it can't be unsaid. He can dance around it all he wants and say that it was intended as a jab at Bush, but that's not how it came across. There are other reasons I have zero respect for the man (quoting an article from The Onion as fact durring his campaigning in Wisconsin, for example) but I don't feel like going into all of them. My statement was angry, yes. But in no way was it irrational. Personally I'm glad in a way that Kerry made that comment. I think alot of people got to see him for what he really is. The rest, well, they can think whatever they want. That is, afterall, their right. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
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Baby- here it is:
Quote:whihc implies that environmetnal efforts that are less than worldwide are ineffective followed by
... but the environment is being raped the world over. You may help preserve your little patch of land, and for that I am truely grateful, but globaly I doubt you're company is having much effect.
Quote:So, which is it? Isolationism? Creating local parks, saving our greenery, or acting globally? Either way it doesn't seem like that's what you want. Also,
You might be trying to save the world, and good on you for that. What I said in my post was "why don't you get off your asses and do something to better this country?" The key word there being country. The rest of the world can do what they want, American's need to start worrying about America.
Quote:You DO know that he served in one of our dirtiest wars ever, right? And he wasn't sitting in some AC'd office on Saigon or being a Texas flyboy, he was actually getting shot at. So while you're wrappping yourself in the righteous indignation of one who has served, you might want to save a little piece of that wrap for Kerry. Unless, of course, YOU want to bash "the troops" too?
What Kerry said was shitty, whether you believe it to be a joke or not. He is a worthless piece of shit and I hope someone makes him choke on his words someday. What he said was a venomous remark to myself and any other American that stood up and had the strength of character needed to put on that uniform...
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