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POSTED BY: rue
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 17:07
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RUE
Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:58 PM

TOWNHALL.com
Sunday, November 12, 2006

(banner ad at the top of the webpage)

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KERRYHATESTHETROOPS.COM

Would you like to let John Kerry know what you think ?

SEND HIM A FAX RIGHT NOW !

Tell Senator Kerry to stop trashing our troops !
Tell him to stop aiding enemy propaganda !


Let him know you remember his long history of treason !
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(and as part of the suggested FAX)

And now your latest atrocity.

Senator Kerry, your apologies are worthless. You are acting like a propagandist for the enemy.

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RUE
Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:08 PM

Anyway, so much for reasoned discussion from the right.

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Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Anyway, so much for reasoned discussion from the right.



As opposed to the reasoned discussion from the Left at http://www.impeachbush.org

But that would be stereotyping folk, wouldn't it?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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RUE
Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:18 PM

Slick,

I HOPE people click on the link. I looked at it closely and at length trying to find what was wrong. Maybe they will point out to me what is the equivalent of the radical, personal, and frankly unhinged ad in ToonHall - I mean, TownHall.

Just to make it super easy - here's that link again http://www.impeachbush.org

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Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:34 PM

Makes you wonder how much nicer politics would be with out the Internet. I'm sick of the crackpots on both sides of the politcial spectrum using their blogs and websites to holler at the top of their voices and preach hate.

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RUE
Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:39 PM

I'm curious. Did you click on the link ? Was there anything you saw that called Bush a traitor, treasonous, a propagandist for the enemy etc? I'm curious b/c I looked at it and didn't see anything amiss. It seemed a fair summary of the items for which Bush could be impeached. I'm hoping you can tell me what is the problem with the site.

THANKS !

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RUE
Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:53 PM

Also something that might be of interest (edited for length)

""The more you are bombarded by ads, the more you are going to be affected by that," Iacoboni said. "It's even philosophical — how much of free will do we have?""

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061103/ap_on_sc/political_ads_science

Scientists track effects of negative ads

By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer
Fri Nov 3, 6:34 PM ET


WASHINGTON - The grainy black-and-white images appear on television, while ominous music plays in the background. It's another in a blizzard of negative political ads and before you consciously know it, the message takes hold of your brain. You may not want it to, but it works just about instantly.

In fact, the ad's effects on the brain "are actually shocking," says UCLA psychiatry professor Dr. Marco Iacoboni.

Iacoboni's brain imaging research from the 2004 presidential campaign revealed that viewers lost empathy for their own candidate once he was attacked.

Scientists around the country are logging the emotional and physical effects of negative political ads. Iacoboni tracked parts of the middle brain that lit up in brain scans when people watched their favorite candidates get attacked. Other scientists hooked up wires to measure frowns and smiles before the meaning of the ads' words sunk in. Mostly, researchers found that negative ads tend to polarize and make it less likely that supporters of an attacked candidate will vote.

"Everyone says, 'We hate them, they're terrible,'" said psychology professor George Bizer of Union College in Schenectady, N.Y.

However, he added, "They seem to work."

"The more you are bombarded by ads, the more you are going to be affected by that," Iacoboni said. "It's even philosophical — how much of free will do we have?"

Negative ads make supporters of the attacker more likely to vote and followers of the victimized candidate depressed and less likely to vote, said Stanford University communications professor Shanto Iyengar, co-author of the book "Going Negative: How Political Advertisements Shrink and Polarize the Electorate."

These ads do not get people to switch sides, Iyengar said. "You can't get them to vote for you, but maybe you can get them to stay home."

What makes these ads work, Iyengar said, are "emotional triggers."

Those triggers reach into our brains faster than words, ideas and rational thought, said Williams College political science professor George Marcus.

Bizer said his studies, which used fictional candidates, showed that when people form opinions based on negatives instead of positives, they are less likely to change their minds.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Slick,

I HOPE people click on the link. I looked at it closely and at length trying to find what was wrong. Maybe they will point out to me what is the equivalent of the radical, personal, and frankly unhinged ad in ToonHall - I mean, TownHall.

Just to make it super easy - here's that link again http://www.impeachbush.org



Nothing more wrong there than at http://kerryhatesthetroops.com/
The site notes some of Sen. Kerry's more egregious anti-soldier quotes from the past 35 years and calls him on them. Not sure if that's unhinged, or just a reaction to Kerry's stated beliefs. People can make up their own minds by checking the site above.

So the point that there are extremes on both sides was just totally lost on you, huh?





"Keep the Shiny side up"

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RUE
Monday, November 13, 2006 12:10 AM

For the record, this is what Slick said was at the site:

WHAT HE SAID
"The site notes some of Sen. Kerry's more egregious anti-soldier quotes from the past 35 years and calls him on them."


And this is what was actually at the site, right up on top in LARGE type:

WHAT THE SITE SAYS
AIDING ENEMY PROPAGANDA and
HIS LONG HISTORY OF TREASON

and further down
your apologies are worthless
You are acting like a propagandist for the enemy

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This is not a mere 'noting' of comments or a 'calling him on them'.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 12:10 AM

2+2=4 is an "extreme" position, is it?

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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