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Democrats didn't Win, Republicans simply Lost!

POSTED BY: Skywalken
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 20:04
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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 3:16 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
BTW, I follow all sorts of media, including the BBC, AsiaTimes (online), Townhall (right of center) etc. It's easy on the internet. I find it useful to come at the same information from several points of view. That way you not only have a fuller picture of the world, but you have a better idea of the news sources.



Yes, I agree. More sources are better. Unfortunately, most major media is liberal (well, it's not unfortunate if one happens to be liberal, too. I'm not. But then, I suppose you already knew that. )

BTW, I just looked to see if I could confirm when the statement was made, and I found it here: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=92527. (It wasn't as easy to find today, as it is "yesterday's" news, and most of these sites move the "old" news off their pages in deference to more-current news -- and rightly so.)

EDIT: Here's another, lengthier report: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20061107-1039-saddamtria
l.html
. And this one alludes to your mention of having heard something similiar previously...

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RUE
Wednesday, November 8, 2006 3:19 PM

Yeah. And I've found there is a period (long in some, as short as a week in others) after which the news corporation moves the article into 'archives'. At that point you have to pay AND it disappears from the google cache.

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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 7:00 PM

Did Clinton make the Republicans lose?



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 8:04 PM

Lots of good stuff in this thread. I agree that we need to keep a close eye on the Democratic Party Congresspeople over the next two years. The battle right now will be between the corporate loving branch of the party (Hillary Clinton and Rahm Emmanuel are probably the two most powerful in that respect) and the more economic populist branch of the party. If Hoyer manages to win the House Majority Leader role that will be a sign that the corporatists are on the ascendent.

The Rahm Emmanuel faction (and groups like the Ellen Tauscher led NDC) don't want to reform lobbying. Their only problem with K Street was that lobbyists weren't giving as much money to Democrats. They will try as hard as they can (so far successfully) to paint this realignment as a win for conservative Democrats. And, if they manage to control the House agenda for the next two years, there will be a lot of business as usual stuff going on inside the beltway. It was Rahm Emmanuel that was publicly pissed off just a few months ago at Howard Dean for building party infrastructure in places like Nebraska and Idaho and other long neglected states. They don't like people powered politics. If you want a good primer on how these inside-the-beltway Democrats are damaging to the party overall, you should pick up "Crashing the Gates" by Jerome Armstrong and Kos.

So every time you see Rahm Emmanuel talking on one of the networks, or being interviewed in a paper, remember that he is a voice for the status quo.

Nancy Pelosi seems to be respected by her fellow legislators across the aisle. It will be interesting to see if this changes as she gets the villification in the right-wing echo chamber that was formerly reserved only for Ted Kennedy and Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Whatever the outcome, Bush is not used to working with anyone.

The big positive, for me, about this election is that we now have a chance for some congressional oversight. John Conyers in charge of a committee. Henry Waxman in charge of a committee. The list goes on and on. Congress has grossly neglected its oversight functions over the past many years. Hopefully, that will now change.

All the talk after the 2004 elections was about Bush's mandate. And he took that "mandate" and attempted to drive us hard in one direction. What the American people said yesterday was, "Wait a second. Not so fast." When you are in a hole, the first step is to stop digging. What this election does is change the rate of digging from fast to slow. It doesn't allow us to stop digging, not yet. The Republicans were able to build up a good bit of inertia moving this country further to the right. And Bush will be fighting as hard as he can to keep the unitary executive provisions in place.

There will be Democrats and Republicans who work as hard as they can to thwart the will of the people. They think that their incumbency is lifelong and that, once they get to Washington, they should never be questioned. Joe Lieberman is exhibit A. It is up to the people in the states and districts to hold their Senators and Representatives accountable whether that is through challenging incumbents in primaries or through general elections.

There's a huge backlash coming from the corporate whores in Washington, DC.

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