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Mac vs. PC

POSTED BY: Gomithrous
UPDATED: Friday, November 17, 2006 19:02
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Saturday, November 4, 2006 11:34 PM

Limewire isn't illegal in Canada yet so until then screw iTunes. But I'm still Macs all the way.

Mal-"Well, look at this. Appears we got here just in the nick of time! What does that make us?" Zoe-"Big Damn Heroes, Sir!"

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Monday, November 6, 2006 1:02 AM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
JPSTARGAZER

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Basically, if I had a Mac, I couldn't upgrade any parts or build my own computer.
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Are you bitching about the OS not being open (which is partially wrong) or not being able to swap hardware? Because the way you are talking, I think that you are confusing the two for being the same when they are actually very very different.



Well I wasn't really "bitching" about anything. I was speaking about hardware...I clearly don't know as much as some people on this board, but my understanding is that if you want a bigger hd, more RAM, new video card, etc., you have to go through Apple. I can do all that myself with a PC.
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Also, Mr. Jobs is constantly railing on Microsoft for stealing things from the Mac OS and then after however many years of the one-button mouse, Mac's now come with a two-button mouse and Steve Jobs is touting it as the greatest thing to happen to computing since the internet.
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The two button mouse was not invented by M$.


I was slightly unclear. I was not claiming that the MS people invented it, simply that it seems the people at Apple treat old news as their innovation.
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PC's appeal to me because of the versatility. I've constantly upgraded my computer (which is more than 4 years old) and it still runs great. If it was a Mac, I would have had to buy a new one or be stuck with an old computer.
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If you would have bought a decent Mac you wouldn't have needed to upgrade.



Well I can't argue there, since I didn't buy a Mac, but see the price point below...
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Since I don't fall into that category (engineer, so if it won't run on Windows, it's probably a Unix program), I have no need for a Mac.
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Really?

http://www.apple.com/science/
http://www.apple.com/science/scientificcomputing.html

There's also darwin ports as well as netbsd's (I believe it's netbsd) ports tree running on OS X as well.

I'll also point out that if you were doing some hardcore scientific computing there is no way that you'd be able to run that on Windows for stability reasons i.e. There's a reason why Linux (and the BSD's to a certain extent) are used for such tasks:

https://www.scientificlinux.org/

Sorry, I'll trust the people at Fermilab and CERN over some random engineer.


Well technically I'm not an engineer yet, I still need to pass my classes this semester and 14 more hours next semester. I wasn't saying that there aren't any scientific applications for Macs. I was commenting from my 1.5 years of experience (small sample, granted) that I've only used Unix and Windows systems in the industry.
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And don't even get me started about how some Mac owners think they're so much better than PC owners...you may like your Mac better than my PC, but does that give you the right to be condescending to me? I mean, I've had Mac users treat me like I was a child because I clearly didn't know anything about computers since I was using a virus-laden, evil-corporation-produced, "blue screen o' death" machine.
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I keep hearing people say things like this, but I've never seen it to any semblence of a large extent. Where do people go where they run into people like this?


Can't answer that, but just because you haven't experienced it (or participated in it) doesn't make my past experience any less true.

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Yeah, Boot Camp seems to be pretty cool. I think it's funny though because MS designs Windows with every other company to make it super compatible, but you'll never see Mac OS run on a PC because they keep all development in house. That may be a smart business move since Mac's can run the competitor's software, but they don't release theirs for the competitor (Microsoft) for the same thing. Seems kinda cheap to me, but maybe that's the Linux "open source" mentality sneaking in.
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In all honesty where are you getting all this mis-information?

1) M$ does NOT make it's OS compatible. I could link to a

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Monday, November 6, 2006 1:18 AM

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Originally posted by Gomithrous:
Actually Dataless, I had a seperate PC just for playing WoW which broke down. I was forced to put it on my Mac and I thought the lag would be horrible but it actually works better than on the PC. Oh and by the way are you Horde or Alliance?

For the Horde!!!



I would have to say it would depends on your Mac (or for that matter your PC also.) I get no lag at all. I never have a slow down when landing a bird and I am always first to zone in when on a boat. I see everyone pop in after I have. Once I was running away from the boat before my friend zoned in. I think that has more to do with the Intel core duo than a Mac or PC. Blizzard has always supported Macs. I know they had added Itunes controls that is built into WOW

Mostly I play for The Alliance, Mostly. Though I do have a Horde character. I play on Kargath, you? What kind of Mac do you have?

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Monday, November 6, 2006 1:27 AM

I have a PowerBook G4, it's quite an amazing computer. I'm Horde all the way but I'm tempted to make a Draenie when the Burning Crusade comes out. Also, check out my "Funniest stuff you ever heard" post I'm gonna put Leroy Jenkins up there.

Link: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=25047

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Monday, November 6, 2006 2:11 AM

I think the ads for them Macs seem to make Mac owners feel better then PC owners. It makes me kind of embarrassed as a Mac owner. I just when to Dell and they are charging $3450 for a computer that compares to the Mac Book Pro 17' screen ($2799). You might be able to get a cheaper PC but will it be as fast and have the same hard drive space? Compare specs and then say which is cheaper. Don't just say that Macs are more expensive with out looking. They don't have a cheaper model but they don't sell computers that compare to PCs that cost less then like $800.

In the end they both Mac and PCs are good. They both have their flaws and they both have their advantages. If you are going to get a computer I would look at all me options, including cost, and then decide. I wouldn't go into any store for any product with out being fully informed. Look at Dell's, Alienware's, Gateway's, Hp's, and yes even Mac's website to compare and really price things out.So before making any judgment on on this topic, it is smart to know all of the facts without emotion attachment to any company or OS. I would even go to the store and look at the computers (Compusa in most area has both Macs and PC.)

I know someone who is beta testing WoW and they said that the Female Draenie is a choppy runner. Have you seen or picked up the WoW the CCG?

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Monday, November 6, 2006 12:52 PM

I actually just bought a pack on Saturday to see what they look like, pretty shiny!
Oh and can't all of us Mac owners and PC owners just be friends

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Monday, November 6, 2006 4:40 PM

Sorry, time to insert a joke here....

What's the difference between a Mac and an Etch-a-Sketch?

You don't have to shake a Mac to clear the screen.



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Monday, November 6, 2006 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by jpstargazer:
Well technically I'm not an engineer yet, I still need to pass my classes this semester and 14 more hours next semester. I wasn't saying that there aren't any scientific applications for Macs. I was commenting from my 1.5 years of experience (small sample, granted) that I've only used Unix and Windows systems in the industry.


Don't worry I've been in the industry for years now. I've never ever heard of anyone doing development work on macs. It's strictly PCs or Unix/Linux. Also one of the companies I interned at in college had a great laugh in a meeting once. We were going over the bug reports for a web based tool and one bug sad something about mac users having a problem. The teamlead looked at it for a minute then crumpled up the paper and threw it over his shoulder. We laughed for about 5 minutes and then got back to distributing work. Not that it's the best business model but it sure raise morale briefly.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:33 AM

I've used Macs far less often than PCs and through my limited experience hate their sorry guts, but I've never cursed them quite as loudly as I have done a graphic design program designed for Mac and ported onto PC (I only had a PC at the office - the main graphics person had one of each, and two desks to go along with, the jammy woman). Dratted thing crashed all the time unless I was careful.

It's also difficult to appreciate Macs when you use your home computer primarily for gaming. IMO console gaming doesn't nearly fill in.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:38 AM

Gosh, you're going to hate me, but I didn't read almost any of that thread. But to speak out: It's PC for me. More software is compatible, and it's less expensive, and as my experience has gone it's easier to upgrade. Granted Windows isn't the awesomest OS to be working with, but if I want a little variete (sic) then I can just boot up the compy with Ubuntu (Linux kernel) on it. And I just love my Lappy. Yeah, I named my laptop computer after Strong Bad's computer, wanna fight about it?

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