Look, I know it's been overdone - but abortion - yay or nay?
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UPDATED: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 13:13
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No Finn,
"If you have a contribution to the discussion, that's one thing, but all you can do is bitch because I have an opinion you don't agree with"
I'm actually willing to discuss the topic. You've pretty much said you won't. You say you have an opinion, but you won't say what it is. You say some things are human, and they may be ova or sperm, or fertilized eggs, or embryos, but won't say what those things are, exactly. Or alternatively what you think are human characteristics so that the rest of us might deduce what you mean.
I still don't know what you mean; b/c all I get out of you is "I have an opinion about what's human". And that opinion is .... ?
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I really think the dissipation had more to do with the fact that the "battle" was over rather than the "war". I don't know that any of those people who were protesting it changed their minds afterwards so much as slinked on home to fight another day. But I suppose we'll just see if a similar case ever comes into the public eye again. I'm betting that it will.
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Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkiries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.
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CM - and I think the debate has been moved to the other end. You'll no longer see that kind of action about brain dead people.
Finn - you there?
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:Quote:I’m not trying to make that leap. I’m not sure that I did, but if it came across that way, it wasn’t intended. There are always going to be a certain percentage of adolescent children who will get involved in sex and they will need to know and understand how to use conception to avoid doing anymore damage to their lives, because that alone can be enough to have a serious negative impact on their future. I’m not an expert in this area, but in my experience if contraception is where we are starting in our sex education, we’ve already lost. So abstinence should be the first and most heavily stressed thing that is taught in sex education, in my opinion.
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
The leap I see you making, that I wouldn't make, is assuming that 12 year olds are not going to think about sex unless they are taught about contraception.
Okay. I'm also not an expert on sex education. I went to a parochial school and the extent of our sex education was listening to a tape of Jim Dobson telling us that we weren't going to hell for masturbating. There's something really pathetic about that concept of sex education. Unsurprisingly, many of my classmates were very uncomfortable with their own bodies. The idea that the flesh was evil was bread and butter type thinking for the denomination I was raised in. It was basically abstinence-only sex education before they started calling it abstinence-only sex education. In other words, I've seen first hand the horrors that result from the, "We'll just put our fingers in our ears and pretend sex doesn't exist" school of sex education educators.
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FMF "There are too many children without homes and too many children living in substandard homes. We don't need to add to the misery."
Hey, even poor kids run, play, laugh, cry, love, etc... Some even grow up to be fathers and mothers themselves. Let's stay focused. Substandard houses? Clearly FMF, you must have a better argument for accepting murder?
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It seems that thinking makes Finn's head hurt.
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Kaneman. how 'bout this: Kids who grow up feeling unloved themselves grow up to be sociopaths.
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Quote:Well, that’s one extreme. But it doesn’t seem like you turned out too bad. I mean, aside from becoming a liberal, it seems like you're pretty well balanced.
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Okay. I'm also not an expert on sex education. I went to a parochial school and the extent of our sex education was listening to a tape of Jim Dobson telling us that we weren't going to hell for masturbating. There's something really pathetic about that concept of sex education. Unsurprisingly, many of my classmates were very uncomfortable with their own bodies. The idea that the flesh was evil was bread and butter type thinking for the denomination I was raised in. It was basically abstinence-only sex education before they started calling it abstinence-only sex education. In other words, I've seen first hand the horrors that result from the, "We'll just put our fingers in our ears and pretend sex doesn't exist" school of sex education educators.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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So Finn... any answers to my ???
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Quote:And as we know, Finn (since you've told us here) Liberals are Baby murders who have to dehumanize unborn children in order to murder them with a clear conscience I guess that's the moderate side of the Argument, I'd hate to see the extreme side.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I mean, aside from becoming a liberal, it seems like you're pretty well balanced.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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