The Buck Stops ... There.
POSTED BY: NewOldBrownCoat
UPDATED: Monday, November 6, 2006 05:06
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from CNN:
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House Majority Leader John Boehner's call for critics to lay off Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld because the generals are responsible for the conduct of the war in Iraq has sparked outrage among Democrats.
In an interview Wednesday on CNN, Boehner said, "Let's not blame what's happening in Iraq on Rumsfeld."
CNN's Wolf Blitzer replied, "But he's in charge of the military."
"The fact is, the generals on the ground are in charge, and he works closely with them and the president," Boehner, an Ohio Republican, said.
Let's see, first it was the CIA's fault, then Bill Clinton's , and now...
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Delegation, delegation, delegation...apparently that goes for blame too!
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If Rumsfeld runs everything from D.C., he's too disconnected, and out of touch. If he relies on what his generals are saying, those who are in country, he's passing the buck.
Nattering nay-bobs of negativity really DO exist!!
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" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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I agree.
But, I'm sure Rumsfeld (and even the President) aren't letting it bother them. They're in good company. Read some of the things they were saying about Lincoln during the Civil War. The things they say about Rumsfeld and Bush are quite tame in comparison.
Lincoln's army lost a whole lot more men, too (more in an hour than we've lost in 3 years in Iraq) -- for a war a lot of people in the North would just have well given up on.
And Lincoln was hated in the south for nearly a century afterwards.
I'm just glad that Lincoln didn't run the war by poles of public opinion, and that neither is Bush.
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The "buck" moves around this administration faster than a hot potato. It doesn't seem to get passed through Dubya's office too often, though.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:Your gladness is covered in blood, but I guess it's God's will.
Originally posted by cartoon:
I'm just glad that Lincoln didn't run the war by poles of public opinion, and that neither is Bush.
It's all by design Chrisisall
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Quote:Hot potatoes roll downhill, dude.
Originally posted by Storymark:
The "buck" moves around this administration faster than a hot potato. It doesn't seem to get passed through Dubya's office too often, though.
Trickle down an' all that Chrisisall
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You see real leaders take responcibillity. They recognise that when people below them fuck up, they've fucked up. They realise that if they're people are giving them bad information they're doing something wrong, either putting the wrong people in the wrong place, or setting up the conditions where the wrong info is encouraged (for instance a boss surrounding themselves with "yes men").
Bad leaders, people who are not suited to lead an expidition out of a paper bag, bad leaders blame those below them. They say "the staff didn't work hard enough" or "they TOLD me everything was okay, how was I supposed to know?"
Well, mate, it's your fucking job to know, it's your job, by virtue at being at the top, to make sure everything below you runs smooth and that you get accurate data. Then it's YOUR job to act appropriatly on that data.
Even good leaders fuck up sometimes, bad leaders blame those fuck ups on people below them, who by virtue of being beneath them can't really defend themselves.
But let us not forget that even a bad leader has arse lickers. Arse lickers are people who latch on to a leader, good or bad, and sing their praises even when they fuck up. Arse lickers have to do this because they are incapable of progressing on merit so must latch on to the power structure like a leach. A good leader will notice arse lickers and ignore them. A bad leader will reward them.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Excellent point Cartoon! This President takes it one step further and refuses to get mired down by the facts, and pesky reality.
I'm going to hold my tongue, kind of, and not automatically accuse you as somebody who would, uh "cut and run" at the question I'm about to ask.
What about this war is going right? Did you use Lincoln because both Presidents presided over a Civil War? Does that make Dubya great for starting one that didn't need to happen? I seriously haven't heard any good news from well, ANYBODY. I've heard we're about to turn a corner, over an over again, but nobody is saying things are going well...except for maybe, you.
If things are on the right track, then by all means inform the rest of us morons who get our ahem, "liberally filtered" news that tells us the opposite.
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Quote:Absolutly Citizen, and any who disagree with ya here must be arsewipe supervisors or CEO's themselves, covering their butts, as usual.
Originally posted by citizen:
Well, mate, it's your fucking job to know, it's your job, by virtue at being at the top, to make sure everything below you runs smooth and that you get accurate data. Then it's YOUR job to act appropriatly on that data.
Bottom line Chrisisall
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