Rush Limbaugh, Michael J. Fox and Parkinson's Disease
POSTED BY: misbehaven
UPDATED: Saturday, November 18, 2006 01:39
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I think for Rush to downplay the destructiveness of this horrid disease is heinous at best. He must be back on the "Oxy"..Well, it sounds like it's true.........
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Originally posted by Hero:
I agree. I can't believe Fox would go around the country attacking people because he suffers from a debilitating illness just because he disagrees with their politics.
Fox didn't attack anyone. All he did was endorse a candidate who supports federal funding for stem cell research.
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I listened to Rush. He said what he said. Then I watched the video on the News. Fox is moving around pretty bad. Then they show'd recent file footage where he wasn't moving at all. Then there is Fox's book were he talks about going off his medication before testifying before Congress to further illistrate (or exaggerate) the illness. I found that odd and it made me wonder.
I'm not sure what footage you're referring to, but if it's the Boston Legal episodes, even the director has spoken about how they had to film in very short intervals to help cover Fox's movements.
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Fox indicates in his ads that Candidate So-n-so wants to make stem cell research illegal and that the Democrat will make it so that they can research stem cells and find a cure for his disease.
1. Stem cell research is not illegal. None of the candidates targeted have indicated a desire to make it so.
Ok, Hero. I'm sure that you're well aware that there's a serious movement, by a significant number of Republican voters, to pressure their party's leaders to ban stem cell research entirely. Also, federal funding remains unavailable for researching any stem cell line created after August 9, 2001 thanks to Bush.
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2. In Maryland the Republican candidate is neutral on Stem cells and indicated openess to the idea of limited govt. funding. The Democrat, who Fox supports, voted for the ban.
Now you're moving from being misleading to simply being dishonest. Here's an excerpt from your beloved Fox News: Steele is the Republican and Cardin is the Democrat
"Steele, Maryland's lieutenant governor, supports research on adult stem cells and umbilical cord blood, but not research that requires destroying an embryo to secure stem cells.
Fox has also recorded spots for Missouri Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill, who is running against Republican James M. Talent, and for Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat seeking re-election. The actor is also planning to appear at events for two Democrats, Sen. Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Tammy Duckworth, an Illinois congressional candidate.
"He wants to take on races and get involved in races that involve a pro stem cell candidate against an anti embryonic stem cell candidate," John Rogers, a publicist for Fox, told The Washington Post.
Fox agreed to film the Maryland spot after an associate met Myrna Cardin, the candidate's wife, at a Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee event in Maryland last month, Cardin spokesman Oren Shur told The (Baltimore) Sun.
Cardin has voted in favor of the bill to expand federally funded research, a measure that cleared Congress but was vetoed by President Bush."
Here's the link: www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,224339,00.html
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3. Stem cell research is not a path to cure Fox's particular disease, although it is a potenital path to cure other diseases which are mentioned (like Alzheimer's).
Actually, stem cells might indeed be able to cure Parkinsons, Diabetes and, yes, Alzheimers
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but the ads are political cheap shot, false and misleading
The only thing false and misleading is your post.
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Fox is taking advantage of his disease to generate sympathy for a pet cause. He deserves to be challenged on the issue, if not the medium he chose.
Pet cause? In 2005, it was estimated that over one million Americans were suffering from Parkinsons and many millions more suffer from the disease worldwide. And what's wrong with the medium? To obtain federal funding, you need political support. Going straight to the people in charge seems like a good idea to me.
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Hero-
Wow, I would just like to thank you for your inspiring words. Working 70-80 hours a week at my big evil corporate law firm has instilled a certain level of political, social, and Firefly apathy in me. Hell, I can barely follow the Mal and Inara threads I once treasured so deeply. But not I'm hopping MAD! Thank you Hero for showing me I can still feel.
I'm not going to attack your politics or opinions, those are your and they ain't gonna change. I do how ever tak issue with your presentation of the facts relating to this issue.
1. You're right stem cell research at present is not illegal, that has not prevented the present administration and it's goons from narrowing budgets and trying to make it so.
2. Your statement that "None of the candidates targeted have indicated a desire to make it so," is a best cleverly worded and at worst a willful misrepresentation. Senator James Talent has consistently supported both state and federal mesures to limit stem cell research.
3. Why the heck are you mentioning Maryland? Sen. Talent and his Dem opponent, McCaskill, are from Missouri. That's populace Fox's add is targeted at.
4. The full capabilities of stem cell research are not known yet. But, your right, let's not cure alzheimers.
Why don't we talk about what's really bothering you. Alex P. Keaton has betrayed you and it hurts. I feel your pain. I'd feel the same way if Buffy started to do pro life ads. But this is not about our feelings. And its even not about politics anymore.
This is about, yes. . . I'm gonna say it . . . basic human decency and dignity. And basic decency says that you don't mock someone for speaking their mind, by claiming they are taking advantage of the same disease which is slowly but surely killing them. Rush could have attacked the facts presented in the ad. Hell Rush could have attacked McCaskill for turning towards evil, liberal hollywood for support. Instead he chose to attack Fox's dignity and integrity. For lack of a better term, that just sux and Rush should be ashamed of his petty behavior.
Lastly, IMDB just published today that the Republicans are recruiting Jesus Christ himself (oh well Jim Cavizel, same difference right?) to speak against candidates who support stem cell research. Under the rubric you offer in your last paragraphs, is that wrong?
Actually, I would personally like to thank Rush. Between him, Bush, and Foely, we (Dems) might actually get the majority in both houses. And I think that's shiny!
Phaedra (a bad luck name and a bad speller)
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
How about a solution to the whole mess
Lets take the researchers and all the money that could be spent on said research, move it to Canada and get something done.
After all, the end goal is more important than the politics involved...
Hey its already happening.....
Great minds and such
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2006/10/25/keller-stem-cells.html
Dr. Gordon Keller, one of the world's leading stem cell scientists, is coming back to Canada to head up a new research centre in Toronto.
Keller will be the director of the McEwen Centre for Regenerative Medicine at the University Health Network, which was launched on Wednesday.
Keller left his native Saskatchewan 16 years ago to work in the U.S. Earlier this year, New York magazine called the embryonic stem cell researcher one of the top six medical minds the city didn't want to lose.
Now we need more researchers to move, more pharma companys to send their research budgets north, and of course all the charitable foundations to send all their cash up here...
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"Working 70-80 hours a week at my big evil corporate law firm has instilled a certain level of political, social, and Firefly apathy in me. Hell, I can barely follow the Mal and Inara threads I once treasured so deeply. But not I'm hopping MAD! Thank you Hero for showing me I can still feel."
Get a new job if Mal and Inara threads are so important.....Well, it's true........
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The only good thing about Limbaugh's big mouth is that it will easily accomodate the foot that's bound to be in it for quite some time to come.
What a buffoon...
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Okay, let's review:
1. Rush Limbaugh once again proves himself the south-bound end of a north-bound horse.
2. Hero: ditto.
Big surprise.
I haven't been so shocked since I found out that Liberace was gay.
"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn
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A picture is worth a thousand words (video of Limbaugh mocking Michael J Fox about a minute into the clip)...
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/25/olbermann-gives-us-the-visual
-to-limbaughs-attack-on-michael-j-fox/
Rush Limbaugh is the modern Republican party in a nutshell.
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
A picture is worth a thousand words (video of Limbaugh mocking Michael J Fox about a minute into the clip)...
I rather liked Fox's classy response to Limbaugh profound douchebaggery.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Remember Bill Frist and Terry Schiavo? I think Limbaugh has gone to the Bill Frist School of Television Diagnosis.
Yes, it's terrible how a poltical party can use a person's diseases to further a cause (you know, like over-ruling judges from Congress) ...
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
Glad you mentioned Schiavo. It was the first thing I thought of when I heard of this. The R 's had a doctor turned Legislator diagnose by videotape to fit his politics; now they've got a hack political comentator ( Where did he go to medical school? Was he in the top 3 percent at his medicad? ) offering a medical opinion.
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