Is the best season of Angel better than the best season of Buffy?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 16:04
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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:04 PM

Call it and tell us why, if you please.

Curious Chrisisall

DEEPGIRL187

Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:05 PM

I'd have to disagree. I'm still a Buffy fan at heart, but even if I wasn't, I think that Buffy had stronger seasons over all (mind you, I'm still on season five of Angel). Some of the story arcs on Angel felt a little weak to me. The Jasmine arc in particular felt a little convoluted (though I did still enjoy it).

For me, I think Joss's level of involvement affected Angel. He wrote a lot less for that show than he did for Buffy, as well as some of the stronger Mutant Enemy writers like Jane Espenson or Marti Noxon. I love Angel, even liked it better than Buffy at some times, but in the end, Buffy was the superior show.

P.S. - And for those that might disagree with me, I point you to the Angelus arc of Buffy season two. 'Nuff said.

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GROOSALUGG

Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:58 AM

That's like trying to decide which one of your kids you like better .

For my tastes, the best seasons are 3 for BtVS, and 5 for AtS. I love them both, but very differently, and honestly couldn't pick between them.

But if you throw the "season" element out and just say which show is better, then for me, it's Angel by a very slight margin, with the main reasons being that I like its dark atmosphere and big-city backdrop, and that it's more of an 'adult' show (meaning only that its characters aren't high-school/college kids). But I like the cast and characters better on Buffy, and the more-frequent humor, so like I said: almost impossible to choose between them.

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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
For me, I think Joss's level of involvement affected Angel. He wrote a lot less for that show than he did for Buffy, as well as some of the stronger Mutant Enemy writers like Jane Espenson or Marti Noxon. I love Angel, even liked it better than Buffy at some times, but in the end, Buffy was the superior show.

True that Angel was never really "Joss's" show, but I don't think it ever suffered at all because of that. David Greenwalt was the show-runner for it for the first three seasons, and I feel like he actually had an even better 'feel' for the show than Joss did. I don't think it's a coincidence that him leaving just happened to precede the weakest season (4) in the show's entire run (and the fact that in one of the DVD special features for that season, Joss states that he feels it was their best season yet only reinforces my opinion that he didn't 'get' the show as well as he should've). Season 5 rebounded and was their best of all, mainly because of the influx of people like Drew Goddard, Ben Edlund, and David Fury (full-time)...

MINIME

Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:54 AM

No.

I could never relate to Angel in the same way as I could to Buffy (as shows, not at characters). Possible because I'm a still-adolescent at heart...

ZORPRIME01

Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:14 PM

stupid computer made a double post... see below!

ZORPRIME01

Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:15 PM

The best of Buffy versus the best of Angel, hmmm, okay...

Well, my fave seasons of Buffy are 3 & 5.
My fave seasons of Angel are 2 & 3 (sorry, S5 ;)

Making a really tough decision, I think it'd be Buffy S3 against Angel S2 (IMHO, the best of each), and Buffy S5 against Angel S3.

I like the two shows equally, so it's really tough. I think Buffy might win out in both cases by a narrow margin simply b/c there seem to be fewer "filler" episodes in Buffy. I usually prefer more of a continuous storyline/arc (though Angel S4 got a little too arc-y). Otherwise, I think the two shows hold their own very well.

If it means anything, I think the single, uncompleted season of Firefly would beat out both the best of Buffy and Angel, again by a very narrow margin!!

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DEEPGIRL187

Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by zorprime01:
If it means anything, I think the single, uncompleted season of Firefly would beat out both the best of Buffy and Angel, again by a very narrow margin!!

Well that goes without saying.

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RUGBUG

Friday, October 27, 2006 7:53 PM

Well, I think the best season of Angel is only slightly better than the worst season of Buffy. From that you can probably guess my answer to the original question.

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
Well, I think the best season of Angel is only slightly better than the worst season of Buffy. From that you can probably guess my answer to the original question.

You'd really say that, like, Angel season 5 is not better than Buffy season 4, for instance?

Clarifying Chrisisall

EMBERS

Wednesday, November 1, 2006 3:17 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
You'd really say that, like, Angel season 5 is not better than Buffy season 4, for instance?

Clarifying Chrisisall

how can you maleign Buffy's season 4!?!?!?!

(I LOVE Buffy's Seaons 4)

peronsally I would say that:

Buffy's best are: S4, S6 & S7
Angel S5 is equal to Buffy's S2 and S3
Angel S1,2 and 3 are equal to Buffy's S5

Buffy's worst is S1,
but it is still better than Angel's S4

(obviously this is just my own personal opinion...)

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