Turns out there may be another side after all.

POSTED BY: Hero
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STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:00 PM

Bump.

Hero's been off the board for 4 days now. This thread has turned into idiot-repellant.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

HERO

Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:15 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Bump.

Hero's been off the board for 4 days now. This thread has turned into idiot-repellant.

Had a Jury trial. Still undefeated. To be honost this poor fellow was screwed by a bad defense lawyer. I actually had every piece of evidence a Prosecutor can have for an OVI trial. Video, sobriety tests, independent witnesses, BAC, admission of drinking (in many different forms, including a receipt from the bar)...His lawyer tried arguing Jury Nullification of the Ohio standards for BAC testing. I kicked her ass, her expert's ass, and then her client's ass. Bottom line, if he'd taken the deal I offered, 6 days $250. Instead she got her client 30 days and $2500 + costs, atty fees, and a couple grand for experts I got excluded from the trial.

He's a 1st year resident at the hospital...in the ER...just like on TV. Love my job.

So, what were we talking about...

H

FELLOWTRAVELER

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:11 PM

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Originally posted by SevenPercent:
Which means it couldn't be the GOP's fault.

It never is...

And it's pretty amusing to me that these Republicans here will not admit defeat. Every piece of information that has been released thus far clearly demonstrates that members of the GOP leadership and caucus were aware of Foley's behavior. But the Republicans here don't address that. They just ignore the topic. They pretend nothing happened and hope the electorate will forget.

I can't blame them, however, they are taking cues from their leader. This is exactly how President Bush, the Republican legislature, and the RNC in general deals with anything that might hurt them politically. Make a few outlandish accusations (Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence!) and then change the subject. Confuse the issue. Ignore the facts.

There is no other side this. Foley is a man who was hitting on children. The man is a predator that was being protected by his colleagues because his seat and vote were more valuable than the truth...

STORYMARK

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:33 PM

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Originally posted by FellowTraveler:

And it's pretty amusing to me that these Republicans here will not admit defeat. Every piece of information that has been released thus far clearly demonstrates that members of the GOP leadership and caucus were aware of Foley's behavior. But the Republicans here don't address that. They just ignore the topic. They pretend nothing happened and hope the electorate will forget.

Case in point:

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Originally posted by Hero:
So, what were we talking about...

Some have shorter memories than others.

And some can't read their own threads.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CAUSAL

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:54 PM

I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank the participants in this discussion for reminding me why I don't frequent these boards anymore.

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SOUPCATCHER

Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:
I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank the participants in this discussion for reminding me why I don't frequent these boards anymore.

As one of those participating in this thread, I'm glad I could be of assistance.

Anything else you'd like to add to the topic?

FELLOWTRAVELER

Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:54 PM

Just an update. The liberal chief of staff of both Rep. Foley (R-FL) and Rep. Reynolds (R-NY) testified today before the ethics committee. Incidentally, I love how these guys get to police themselves. Is there any other industry in the country that is wholly responsible for it's own regulation? Why am I thinking something about foxes and chicken coops...

Anywho, here's the story:

"Ex-aide testifies to ethics panel about Foley"

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/12/foley.fallout/index.html

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An ex-congressional aide testified to a House ethics panel Thursday about concerns he had regarding former Rep. Mark Foley's Internet exchanges with teen congressional pages.

...However, a source familiar with the ex-aide's account said earlier Thursday that Fordham was to tell the panel that he delivered warnings to House Speaker Dennis Hastert's top aide years ago.

Fordham also planned to testify under oath that he warned more than one congressional official several times about Foley's inappropriate behavior, the source said.

Fordham, who finished his testimony Thursday afternoon, has said he issued the warnings earlier than Republican leaders have reported.

The source said Fordham was to say he notified Scott Palmer, Hastert's chief of staff, three or four years ago about a report that Foley had shown up drunk at the dormitory that houses the teenage messengers

Rep. Alexander brought the e-mail from his constituent to the attention of Hastert's office, resulting in a private warning to Foley from then-House Clerk Jeff Trandahl and Shimkus, the House Page Board chairman. Both Alexander and the teen's family have said that they did not want the issue made public and wanted the contact to stop.

Hastert and other top GOP lawmakers have said they were not previously aware of the sexually explicit instant messages between Foley and other pages. But sources familiar with the situation told CNN that Trandahl had raised alarms about Foley's contacts with the teens long before he resigned his post in November 2005.

And in a statement Tuesday, Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Arizona, said that a young man he had appointed as a page told his office that he had received an e-mail from Foley "that made him uncomfortable." Kolbe's office said the complaint was from 2000 or 2001.

And I love the new excuse being used by the GOP's talking heads. You see, there's this all powerful gay mafia (flamers, as P. Buchanan had taken to calling them) deep inside the halls of government and they were protecting Foley. Because, as we all know, it's perfectly acceptable in the gay community to hit on underage boys and a heterosexual man would never engage in sexual congress with a girl under 18. These gays just have no morals... They need more church...

STORYMARK

Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:56 PM

And Hero still stays quiet....

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

FELLOWTRAVELER

Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:00 PM

And look, they've broke out this old chestnut:

"Shays on Foley handling: At least no one died"

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/11/shays.kennedy.ap/index.html

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HARTFORD, Connecticut (AP) -- Republican Rep. Christopher Shays defended the House speaker's handling of a congressional page scandal, saying no one died like during the 1969 Chappaquiddick incident involving Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy.

"I know the speaker didn't go over a bridge and leave a young person in the water, and then have a press conference the next day," the embattled Connecticut congressman told The Hartford Courant in remarks published Wednesday.

"Dennis Hastert didn't kill anybody," he added

Ahhh, it's Teddy's fault! I knew it! Did the Democratic party leadership cover this up (in nineteen sixty mother f

g nine)? If so, they did a bang up job! And while I don't know all the facts of the Chappaquiddick incident, only what I have read online, the aide with Kennedy wasn't underage, right?

So, once again, let's confuse the issue and bring up a car accident from almost 40 years ago. That should distract the voters...

Wasn't Laura Bush involved in car accident where somebody died? And didn't both President Bush and Vice President Cheney recieve several DUIs in their youth? If Senator Kennedy's driving record is significant, why isn't theirs? Ah-ha, because it isn't significant...

STORYMARK

Friday, October 13, 2006 4:47 PM

Bumpity.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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