I don't support Bush because...

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SIGNYM

Friday, October 6, 2006 7:24 PM

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To be honest, I don't know myself if I would have the internal strength to keep my earned opinion if my family and friends were all against it without knowing. Fortunately, my firends and family asked me what the experience was, they didn't attack me or my beliefs based off of what they 'heard someone say', etc.

I think we'd ALL like to hear about your experience but maybe my questions got lost in the shuffle. I can't believe "they're" all wrong but OTOH I'm not about to discount your experience either. It's the "seven blind men and an elephant" problem. Being a scientist, I think the answer is somewhere in the details.

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SIGNYM

Saturday, October 7, 2006 12:33 AM

I thought this was interesting. It begins...

All: I haven't written very much from Iraq. There's really not much to write about. More exactly, there's not much I can write about because practically everything I do, read or hear is classified military information or is depressing to the point that I'd rather just forget about it, never mind write about it. The gaps in between all of that are filled with the pure tedium of daily life in an armed camp. So it's a bit of a struggle to think of anything to put into a letter that's worth reading. Worse, this place just consumes you. I work 18-20-hour days, every day. The quest to draw a clear picture of what the insurgents are up to never ends. Problems and frictions crop up faster than solutions. Every challenge demands a response. It's like this every day. Before I know it, I can't see straight, because it's 0400 and I've been at work for 20 hours straight, somehow missing dinner again in the process. And once again I haven't written to anyone. It starts all over again four hours later. It's not really like Ground Hog Day, it's more like a level from Dante's Inferno...

http://www.time.com/time/world/printout/0,8816,1543658,00.html

Curiously, the one person this soldier criticized by name was Bill O'Reilly. I wonder if it's because of political reasons or because O'Reilly is such a blow hole.

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Saturday, October 7, 2006 12:41 AM

I don't support Bush because.....I am breathing.

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YINYANG

Saturday, October 7, 2006 1:05 AM

Here's something I found interesting from the article SignyM posted:

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Coolest Insurgent Act — Stealing almost $7 million from the main bank in Ramadi in broad daylight, then, upon exiting, waving to the Marines in the combat outpost right next to the bank, who had no clue of what was going on. The Marines waved back. Too cool.

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USMCHELLRAISER

Monday, March 24, 2008 6:53 AM

My favorite quote:

"Our briefs and commentary seem to have no effect on their preconceived notions of what's going on in Iraq. Their trips allow them to say that they've been to Fallujah, which gives them an unfortunate degree of credibility in perpetuating their fantasies about the insurgency here. Biggest Outrage — Practically anything said by talking heads on TV about the war in Iraq, not that I get to watch much TV. Their thoughts are consistently both grossly simplistic and politically slanted."

"...let's not ruin an otherwise pleasant day with unnecessary bloodshed..."

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, March 24, 2008 7:31 AM

Because he is wholly incompetent in every respect that ever mattered worth a damn to me.

I do not care if he is immoral, or evil, or hell, downright psychotic for that matter..

I care whether or not he can DO THE JOB.

And he can't, he has failed utterly at every single bit of it, chapter and verse.

It's not simpler than that.

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Funny thing though, Antimason - we disagree on so very much, at so many levels, and yet we, and many others who disagree quite strongly with our views, individually or the both of us, all see the same creeping fascism looming up behind us with an axe, don't we ?

It's silly to worry about all our little differences between folk when there seems to be a mutually acknowledged greater threat to concern ourselves about.

And I suspect no few of us, any of us, all of us, are doing our little parts, too.

The great grand plans of the established are worn by many things, broken on the rocks of adversery and arrogance, pounded on the surf of active resistance, but even so, worn away bit by bit, by the mere grains of sand that are the petty and honest defiances of common, decent folk.

See, plans like this happen to require us, the people - to play ball in order for it to actually occur, and we don't have to do so.

Remind folk of that.

-Frem

ALLIETHORN7

Monday, March 24, 2008 5:02 PM

I don't support Bush, simply because he is a bumbling idiot.
The man is good at two things- Being good company and playing the Eternal Cowboy. Now, while this doesn't make him a bad man, what he has done in is Presidency has. And the fact that he has allowed himself to be led by his consultants is the final nail.
The man isn't evil- He's just bloody stupid. And, as such, he fails miserably at his selected job field.

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ANTIMASON

Monday, March 24, 2008 6:06 PM

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FremDFirma-

Funny thing though, Antimason - we disagree on so very much, at so many levels, and yet we, and many others who disagree quite strongly with our views, individually or the both of us, all see the same creeping fascism looming up behind us with an axe, don't we ?

It's silly to worry about all our little differences between folk when there seems to be a mutually acknowledged greater threat to concern ourselves about.

And I suspect no few of us, any of us, all of us, are doing our little parts, too.

The great grand plans of the established are worn by many things, broken on the rocks of adversery and arrogance, pounded on the surf of active resistance, but even so, worn away bit by bit, by the mere grains of sand that are the petty and honest defiances of common, decent folk.

See, plans like this happen to require us, the people - to play ball in order for it to actually occur, and we don't have to do so.

Remind folk of that.

dang, someone went diggin' through the archives didnt they?.. but i love the consistency of it all. i completely agree Frem, we all share a mutual interest in the truth, and freedom, however they're attained. i think what distinguishes our movement(people like yourself and others) is that we see the authorities as the number one threat, before anything external(to our homeland). this will be the big division in the future im guessing, so i appreciate all allies of like mind

AURAPTOR

Monday, March 24, 2008 7:22 PM

I voted for him. Twice. Given the same situation, w/ the same choices, I'd vote for him again. Hands down.

Can a thread get more pointless ?

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KIRKULES

Monday, March 24, 2008 8:49 PM

"I don't support Bush because" he's not running for elected office this time around. I support John McCain because he is running. McCain is running his campaign embracing the decision to fight the war in Iraq, and it's working out pretty good for him so far. You Bush bashers need to get used to the fact that your not going to have Bush to kick around much longer. If you want to help your side of the debate you might want to direct your efforts towards McCain where they might make a difference. I wish you luck if your pinning your hopes on making this election a referendum on Bush. It might have worked with another candidate, but McCain has been a thorn in Bush's side ever since the 2000 race. Your only hope of defeating McCain is to hope the war starts to go badly before the election, and that just isn't going to happen. McCain like Bush realises that the huge sacrifices our military is making today will pay off down the road when the middle east becomes a peaceful part of the civilized world. That's the essence of what McCain meant by us being in Iraq "100 years". We've been in Germany for 60 year and it's been a good thing for the US and Germany. There's no reason the same thing can't happen in the middle east. Unless of course Obama or Clinton surrender before the job is done.

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