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I don't support Bush because...

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:16 PM

ok, so you knew it was going to happen.... so for those of you who haven't drunk the kool-aid, fire away



I have never supported this man - as governor of my home state or as president of the lot of em. I could make a list - but lists are boring - suffice it to say, I dislike the policies of this administration and I most definitely do not condone the murder of innocent civilians.


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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:51 PM

I DONT SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE:

I have morals, a conscience and am reasonably inteligent.

I also know the difference between kneeling down and bending over.

I recognise that there are other countries in the world apart from the good old U.S. of A. and that people actualy live in them.

I know that If there is a God, he would'nt want me to bomb people back into the stoneage just to prove a point.

I know that there is no such thing as a "Terrrssst". Nor is "F" the capital of France.

But mostly I dont support Bush because he is going to hoodwink you all into letting him have enough emergency powers to ignore the next election and stay in office, and by the time you've all realised whats going on it will be too late.

And serves you bloody well right.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:58 PM

which is why we all need to own up and realize that both parties are controlled by traitors, and that our establishment government, including the media, is controlled by international corporate/banking cartels who seek a global fascist oligarchy.

i found this article.. id like for you partisan lemmings out there to absorb this for a minute

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/041006Welcome.htm

Quote:

"Welcome to Fascist America!

Gene Callahan | October 4 2006

My fellow Americans, it’s official now: We live in a fascist nation.

Now, the term "fascist" has been thrown around over the last fifty years in a loose way that has drained it of much of its meaning. If someone wanted to cut 5% off of a leftist professor's favourite welfare programme, the professor would call his opponent a "fascist." I’m not using the word like that. I mean honest-to-goodness, old-fashioned, 1930s style fascism, featuring such old favourites as:

Secret prisons – they’re back!
Torture – we’re doing it.
Spying on all citizens.
Arrests and indefinite imprisonment without trial.
Rampant militarism.
Secret detention.
Enforced disappearance.
Denial and restriction of habeas corpus.
Prolonged incommunicado detention.
Unfair trial procedures.
(This list was compiled partially based on the work of Amnesty International, available here.)

An absolutely mind-numbing response to complaints that our traditional legal system is being torn apart is the question, "So, you want to protect the rights of terrorists?"

Um, no, I want to protect the rights of non-terrorists who might be falsely accused of terrorism! That was sort of, you know, the whole idea of our legal system. I’m sure there was some neo-con around in the 1700s saying to Jefferson or Madison, "So, you want to protect the rights of murderers and robbers?" but luckily they ignored him.

We’ve now gotten to the point where Nazi Germany was, say, in 1934. Remember, at that time, if you had told a typical German what his government would do over the next ten years, he would have looked at you as a madman. After all, his land had been civilized for over a thousand years. His was the nation of Albertus Magnus, Gutenberg, Goethe, Schiller, Beethoven, Bach, Kant, Hegel, Schelling, Fichte, Heisenberg, Reimann, Mann, Lessing, Herder, Handel, Dürer, Leibniz, Gauss, Helmholtz – he could have gone on, but you get the point. His nation could not possibly descend into barbarism! If you tried to tell him he was living in a police state, he would have pointed out that his government had used its vast new powers very judiciously, and only against a few trouble-makers. So far.

It is interesting, in gauging the direction we are heading, to look at the proclamations of "respectable" opinion writers who support this administration. For instance, we have people at a "libertarian" think tank proclaiming that Moslems are not entitled to full civil rights in the US. (Perhaps we need to make them wear something special on their clothing like, say, a yellow star, so we know just who they are, hey?) But "conservatives" provide even more stunning examples of purely fascist reasoning. For example, conservative demagogue Ann Coulter has called for the editor of The NY Times to face the firing squad for his part in publicizing this administration's abuses of power. Let’s look at a recent column by Douglas MacKinnon at TownHall.com.

MacKinnon considers all of those involved in revealing the sordid collection of secret programmes that have been launched by the Bush administration as "traitors" who have publicized these schemes "purely because they don’t like the policies of the new president." Well, he’s right in that "they don’t like the policies" that they consider unconstitutional violations of our rights. Far from "aiding the enemy," these revelations aided us, the American people, by letting us know what our government has in store for us.

Consider what the point of classifying these programmes was in the first place, and who they were being kept secret from. The jihadists no

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RUE
Wednesday, October 4, 2006 7:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
I DONT SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE:

I have morals, a conscience and am reasonably inteligent.

I also know the difference between kneeling down and bending over.

I recognise that there are other countries in the world apart from the good old U.S. of A. and that people actualy live in them.

I know that If there is a God, he would'nt want me to bomb people back into the stoneage just to prove a point.

I know that there is no such thing as a "Terrrssst". Nor is "F" the capital of France.

But mostly I dont support Bush because he is going to hoodwink you all into letting him have enough emergency powers to ignore the next election and stay in office, and by the time you've all realised whats going on it will be too late.

And serves you bloody well right.

Since I don't have the time to count the ways, I'll go along with your excellent short list. Except I think Bush is now damaged goods. They'll throw him under the bus in favor of someone else.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 8:03 PM

yah...unfortunately the next guy will be no better, since the same interests who put Bush in office will then support the next shill

we (the unwashed masses) just cant compete with trillion dollar banking institutions like the FED, who are hell bent on the fullfillment of this satanic elitist NWO agenda

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:49 AM

10. Because I don't want to support someone who's likely going to rubberstamp a war on Iran and/or North Korea in order to deflect attention away from his previous policy failures in Afghanistan and Iraq.

9. Because I want to end government directed and sponsored torture, not redefine it.

8. Because I think Church and State should be separated.


7. Because I think the "Patriot Act" and the pervasive spying it allows on essentially the entire population should be rejected, not refined.

6. Because I'm tired of the Bush administration handing out no-bid contracts worth billions in tax-payer dollars to their largest campaign contributors as well as providing hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies to oil companies.

5. Because I'm tired of watching the Bush administration use fear to generate support for their endless War on Terror and to help them errode our civil liberties

4. Because I don't support anyone who opposes a woman's right to govern her own body.

3. Because I don't support anyone who attempts to marginalize a segment of the American citizenry by adding a constitutional amendment that takes away a citizen's right rather than granting them one.

2. Because Bush refuses to use anything even resembling diplomacy.

1. Because I enjoy my constitutionally granted freedoms, and I would like to continue to do so.





Buy the ticket. Take the ride.
-Hunter S. Thompson

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RUE
Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:59 AM

I don't support Bush because I'd be in the same club with people I detest.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 1:03 AM

I don't support Bush because...

He's entirely unconvincing and frighteningly [stupid? evil?], both in his political policies, and his public speaking.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 1:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by yinyang:
I don't support Bush because...

He's entirely unconvincing and frighteningly [stupid? evil?], both in his political policies, and his public speaking.



Oh yeah. I forgot all about him being an inarticulate moron or at least being simply inarticulate.

Buy the ticket. Take the ride.
-Hunter S. Thompson

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 1:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by misbehaven:
Quote:

Originally posted by yinyang:
I don't support Bush because...

He's entirely unconvincing and frighteningly [stupid? evil?], both in his political policies, and his public speaking.



Oh yeah. I forgot all about him being an inarticulate moron or at least being simply inarticulate.

Buy the ticket. Take the ride.
-Hunter S. Thompson



::gasps::

How do you forget something that bad? I haven't even been able to suffer through more than five minutes of his leaning-on-the-podium, head-bobbing, hand-waving, "I'm just a regular guy with a lot of power," and all his other hoo-haw.

And, that's another thing that irks me - the "I'm just a regular guy {with a huge ranch and piles of cash)." We don't need a regular guy president. We don't want a regular guy president. We want somebody who knows what they're doing, and will do things, if not well, fairly and honestly - at least, with as much honesty as most politicians can muster.

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"What the world needs now is love, sweet love - it's the only thing that there's just too little of. What the world needs now is love, sweet love. No, not just for some, but for everyone."

Trouble-Maker in the House!

http://richlabonte.net/tvvote

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