Male and Female Imponderables- real wild children

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JAMESTHEDARK

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:05 PM

Games: Don't know the rules, and I'm more of a spectator anyway. I might not have a damn clue what's going on, but it's still fun watchin' people run around and injure each other.

Fire: My computer, first of all... and after that, there ain't much I wouldn't be able to replace from a fire. Not because my computer's that damn valuable, just because it has all of my writing and whatnot on it.

Relationships: As I mentioned innumerable times in these threads, I have no practical experience with this stuff, so I cannot, in good conciounce, recommend any course of action.

Last Names: My own isn't exactly common (although it is a fairly common color, especially once you head toward the equator), but still, I'm not exactly obsessed with passing it on. If I was, I'd probably have gotten married by now, be holding down a piece-of-crap job and have a barefoot-and-pregnant wife.
Needless to say, that person is practically my antithesis. If whatever woman I gain wants to keep her original sirname (which, if one thinks about it, is most often her father's original sirname. Just pointing out the elephant, you know), I say, go right ahead. Names are quite literally the least of my concerns.

Of course, I went all summer without anybody referring to me by my name; they managed only using pronouns. So take that with a grain of salt.

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I ain't lookin' for help from on high. That's a damn long wait for a train don't come.

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.

MSG

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:19 PM

It must really depend on what last name you have and what importance you attach to it. I was thrilled to give up mine ( not that I don't adore my step dad) as it was Bird...yes Bird as in tweety and I really didn't want to get my doctorate and be adressed as Dr. Bird ( sounds way too much like a sesame street character)

I have never really understood the feminist thing about not giving up your name ( which as james pointed out is really your dad's name) and if you use your mother's birth name then you are really using her father's name and so on. So it doesn't seem to matter one way or another you're using a guy's name...however if you are keeping it because your family name is really important to you,like Marina, then I say go for it and any one who can't understand if something is important to you wouldn't really make a good spouse in my opinion:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:21 PM

Okay, I'm forced to take lunches with my title. I think that was the point I meant to make earlier but being a dunderhead and all...

Any hoo, speaking with my bestest friend over the phone and I thought of something.

I want so bad to fall in love, but I'm thinkin' I have no clue how anymore.

Not that there are according to Hoyle rules, but it might be nice to have 'em.

MINK

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kayna:

And Mink, did you say wives?!?
Plural?!!
Just where do you live?

Pakistan.

Just kidding. I was being silly. Two cats, two kids, one wife. Which is plenty, mind you.

MAL4PREZ

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:24 PM

I would grab, in this order...

cat
laptop
computer harddrive
as much of the 4 carboys and 100+ bottles of homebrew as I can carry. That stuff is hard to replace, especially the ones approaching 2 years old!

Rugbug - did you see The Hitcher? Rutger Hauer and our boy C. Thomas. So cute he was, mm-mmm!!!

Re last names - I'd have a hard giving mine up. Don't think I'd do it. I've never seriously thought I'd have kids, so I'm not sure of my opinion on that. The hyphonated thing would be a bear, since I already have four syllables in my last name!

It would be cool if kids got to choose for themselves at some age. As long as the losing parent doesn't take it personally, LOL!

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I'm the president. I don't need to listen.

MARINA

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:

Marina- can I ask why your family names are so important? I kind of like the idea of letting your kid choose which name they use. That'd be fun. When my stepdad adopted me I got to choose my middle name (well choose from a few option) wisely they wouldn't let me pick my first name as, at the time, I wanted to be named Princess Lilly...LOL I was 5.

Princess Lily would have been a FANTASTIC name to go through life with!

Well, when my parents married of course my mother kept her name. I'm the first of two, and before I was born my father had agreed to let me have my mother's last name. Turns out he got panicked and they compromised and gave me both. Both my mom and dad are from huge families, and yet my brother and I are the only two who are at all likely to continue the lineage. I'm sure I have a better reason than "It's important to them, so it's important to me" but that's what I'm coming up with.

I guess I just really admire my mom, which is why I took her last name when I finished high school, and which is why I want to pass it on. As for my dad's name...he cares a lot about it, his family is very complex and I won't go into it here, but it's very important for him that his name lives on, and I want to be able to do that for him.

I'm very smart.

MARINA

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:

I have never really understood the feminist thing about not giving up your name ( which as james pointed out is really your dad's name) and if you use your mother's birth name then you are really using her father's name and so on. So it doesn't seem to matter one way or another you're using a guy's name...

Keep in mind, however, that there is also a difference between a father and a husband. You came from your father, you're a part of him, he raised you, whatever (hence the traditional naming system). When you marry, the idea is that you take your husband's name to indicate you are now a part of HIS family. It's not so much whether it's a man's name or a woman's name, but the family you "belong" to.

That's the idea, anyways.

So, I'd just rather belong to my family and my parents.

EDIT: I know this leaves the door wide open for "what about your children, they'll be a part of your husband?" arguments, but I don't really want to argue about it :) So this is the last one on this subject

I'm very smart.

MSG

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:32 PM

That's really wonderful Marina. My family sort of does that through first names ( no one in my family has a unique name. we are all named for someone who was named for someone and so on)

NV- I think the only rules left are
1-Follow your gut and your heart
and
2-be careful what you wish for

However I would like to throw in my grandmother's piece of wise advice...
"The only expectation you should ever have for a relationship is that each of you will try to do better tomorrow than you did today."

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

MARINA

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:

However I would like to throw in my grandmother's piece of wise advice...
"The only expectation you should ever had for a relationship is that each of you will try to do better tomorrow than you did today."

Genuinely beautiful.

And the sentiment is applicable to so many things we do in life.

I'm very smart.

MSG

Monday, October 2, 2006 9:41 PM

Yes my grandmother is very wise... her other great saying is
"There's magic in believing"

Ok well I have to bail and such, but I will be back in a few hours ( hopefully, providing I can get to the eye doctors, get home, cook dinner, watch the finale of Stargate and Atlantis, and do a load of laundry before 9 pm) otherwise I shall return tomorrow...big hugs to all

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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