BlueSunShirts.com getting FOXed?!!?
POSTED BY: TenthCrewMember
UPDATED: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:34
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This is the saddist news i have heard for a long time, I now fear for all the other shiney sites out there i visit.
We hold our breath for fox to be reasonable, and they just kill us off!
How can such evil once of spawned such geniuse?
this is a sad day.
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They only can do it because they have us running scared of their lawyers and the consequences that their money or our lack therof can bring upon us, wreaking havock on security and stability and all of the other things we have taken for granted....
The internet... the last bastion of true freedom in the world, is systematically being shut down, one lawsuit at a time.
There is a civil war at hand. One day, and I do believe it will be while I'm alive, the sleeping giant will have had its toes stepped on one to many times, and will rain fury upon the aristocrats and politicians. When all races and colors and religions can agree to be different and truly embrace each other without the false crutch of political correctness, we will rise against and be a force the world has never before seen. And on that day, there won't be a lawyer in the world who can stop us.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
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uhhh....are we still talkin' about Tshirts?
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I will continue to burn copies of Firefly for anyone who wants them* and I encourage everyone to do the same.
Oh now, that sucks! That ticks me off to no end. How can you possibly equate what you are doing with what the fansites and others (like BSS.com) are doing?
Not that anything I am saying here is likely to convince you, but shouldn't it just take knowing you're stealing royalties from the BDHs themselves every time you do this?
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Here's a scary thought. What if they don't stop at merchants of Firefly stuff? This web site, for instance, _could_ be served a C&D from F** unless the webmaster has already obtained a license to use images from the show.
I know a lot about this as I was a computer book editor and author which required me to request permission from software vendors (yes, even computer programs are covered by copyrights.)
As mentioned before, if a company does not defend their intellectual property, that's the proper name of this sort of thing, they pass their property into the public domain.
This isn't unlike a homeowner that let's a neigbor build a fence over a corner of their property. If they don't make an effort to have the neighbor move it then after a certain amount of time that property becomes their neighbor's (I had this happen to me in Florida.)
As much as I hate to say it, F** is correct. I expect Universal to do the same shortly.
EDIT: I just had a thought. If Firefly is a "dead" franchise despite the continued sales of the DVD set, maybe this is the first sign of activity by F** to resurrect the show. I'm an "up person" (don't ask my co-workers though) so I can only hope!
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I will continue to burn copies of Firefly for anyone who wants them* and I encourage everyone to do the same.
Oh now, that sucks! That ticks me off to no end. How can you possibly equate what you are doing with what the fansites and others (like BSS.com) are doing?
Not that anything I am saying here is likely to convince you, but shouldn't it just take knowing you're stealing royalties from the BDHs themselves every time you do this?
I agree with you 100%. I also earlier posted that if they liked it then they should buy it and show their support for Firefly, and I also mentioned that Joss should start his own network and have webcast episodes that the fans pay for, without advertising and without middlemen like FOX.... of course, as this smaller example points out, FOX would never allow that even though they obviously hated the show or what it stood for by the unprescedented careless way that they aired the episodes and destroyed the show. This show belongs to us, not FOX. One could argue that you're taking food out of the BDH's mouths by selling merchandise, such as shirts, on your own website too, if you weren't giving them royalties, which they apparently aren't being paid out or we wouldn't be writing this blog now. I don't believe Joss wouldn't let that happen if he didn't have to answer to greedy corporate pigs that are only concerned about the bottom line and how much of a bonus they're getting this year.
The wrong people are getting paid for this, and with the internet, they are antiquated and unnecessary. They realize this and that's what they're afraid of, and that's why there are all the lawsuits or threats therof today. They want to limit our ability to evolve and become part of the project ourselves, thereby eliminating the need for advertising to permiate everything around us, and more importantly, their own bloated and undiserved salaries.
Sorry to piss you off... thems the breaks.
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This show belongs to us, not FOX.
Firefly is the property of 20th Century Fox. It does not belong to us. It's that simple.
In an ideal world, yes, Joss would producing media which he owns himself, but the reality is he doesn't do this. If Joss returns to TV, it has to be with Fox.
The reason Firefly exists is because of 20th Century Fox. The reason Buffy and Angel exist is because of 20th Century Fox. The reason Joss is a multi millionaire is also to do with Fox - aside from anything, they paid him.
Companies like Fox wouldn't be turning over the kind of money they do if they were giving shows away.
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And that's satisfactory to you, even though FOX treats Firefly and Joss like abused stepchildren.....
It sounds to me like it's time for copyright laws to be rewritten.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
And that's satisfactory to you, even though FOX treats Firefly and Joss like abused stepchildren.....
Well, in fairness, FOX Broadcasting Corp (the network) and 20th Century Fox (the studio) are two different things. It was really FOX (the network) which didn't have a clue, and they aren't the ones who hold the copyright.
And I wouldn't call failure to market a show the same as child abuse. Well, not generally.
Copyright laws themselves aren't generally a problem, although over zealous corporations enforcing them can be.
At the end of the day, BlueSunShirts.com was making a profit from a show which 20th Century Fox own (and have legally sold the Tshirt license for). They can't moan too much.
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I can't believe the cavalier attitude that the proles take regarding putting a copyright stamp on creativity. Copyrights, when originally enforced, would expire. They were originally set up so somebody who created something would get their dues for it and then it would become public domain for others to shape and mold into the visions they had. And this, was a good thing. This was the age of experimentation and creativity of yesterday.
Today, copyrights are made forever, minus one day... whatever that means. Copyright holders (the ones with money) own rights to anything that we see or experience on TV or in the media in general today, while the people (the ones without money) are forced fed the garbage and if something they do like comes along, they have no control over it and they are forced to sit back and watch its premature demise, if that's what the powers that be desire.
Even the News (or the possibility of truth), it seems, is not immune to this copyright "protection". Recently Bill Clinton embarrassed FOX news during an interview and many people embedded the YouTube video of it in their Myspace profiles. (I personally would rather watch FOX News than CNN, as CNN is a bit too Communistic for my taste. This is not a FOX News bashing session from a loyal CNN enthusiast). These MySpace users were given cease and desist orders from FOX telling them to take the videos off of their sites or else legal actions would be taken against them. Try to find the video now. It was news... It was reported... nobody will remember it 5 years from now though because it has been all but wiped out of existance by the Ministry of Truth. Where is CNN now? Why aren't they reporting this... It would seem a prime oppurtunity to sling some rocks at FOX, but they can't for the very same reason people cannot show it: FOX owns the copyrights to that news and can decide if it even happened or not. One day, it may be a violation of copyrights for me to even talk about it, let alone show it.
I understand that there are legal blockades set in place now, but for sanity's sake, show a little outrage... or at the very least, some dismay about the slow death of creative thought, and OUR show. You sound like a robot when you spew your indoctrinated, Alliance rhetoric to me about copyrights. These laws are only blockades, and if the people should decide they are unnessary, they can be removed. If you wake up one day and freedom of speech has been sued out of existance, realize that it is your current way of thinking that has willingly allowed it to happen in the first place.
And regarding your quote "And I wouldn't call failure to market a show the same as child abuse. Well, not generally." You and I both know that this wasn't failure to market a show. This was either gross negligence and imcopentence, or there was a strong motive for somebody to bury this show... perhaps pressure from members of a certain administration who just so happens to be very Alliance minded. Never in history had a show been so abused.
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