I still can't believe that (SPOILER, don't read if you haven't seen the movie)
POSTED BY: browncoatmike
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 3, 2006 17:12
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I still can't believe that Wash AND Book got killed. I just watched the BDM for probably the 50th time and it still makes me sad. Anybody else still get that, even after seeing the BDM so many times? 
The more I think of it, I think I'm more upset about Book. With so much potential stemming from his past, only to be finished off in the movie.
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I'm right there with you, had the TV show gone on I think Shepard Book would have been one of the more interesting character developments and Wash who doesn't love Wash. However for the Movie I hate to say it was necessary for those two to die. For Book I would say that the obvious reason was that something in the story had to get Mal to have faith to believe in something. Mal would have just kept doing what he had always been doing which would be running, but something had to make Mal stop and fight back. Now Wash on the other hand, his death , as much as I hate to say it was also necessary for the movie. However a little bit more complicated if you can follow where I am going with this. I'm trying to think of another group of heros, that have all there own character trates but the only thing that is comming to mind, and please forgive me for bringing this up but its really late, THE POWER RANGERS. Now as a kid I remember watching this show and not ever having to worry about them, no matter what happen I knew that at the end of every episode they would make it out OK. Now at this point in the movie Book is dead, but Book had already been off the ship so we have our eight crew members left see if you can follow me on this one:
Mal: Couldn't die he's the main protagonist in this story he had to walk away learning something from this.
Zoe: Couldn't die you would have two characters having to deal with the loss of her death; namly Mal and Wash. Plus at this point we wanted to see Mal complete his mission and not be distraced by the remorse of his long time friend.
Jayne: Maybe, but they wouldn't have a stood a snowballs chance against all those Reavers with out him.
Simon: Again would have two characters dealing with his loss. Kaylee and River, plus River needed the motivation at the very end to fight all those Reavers.
Kaylee: 'Cmon we were all routing for her to finally get it on with Simon.
River: Mal does take a Journey in this story in discovering faith, but River is right there along side in this Journey in finally dealing with the demons and becoming a better person in the end.
Wash: Had to go, again getting back to the Power Rangers thing. You needed something to let you know that our heros were in great peril, Wash was a main character and if he got killed who could be next.
Although tragic and sad you have to remember Wash went out saving all there lives. BDH for life.
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now back to bed for me.
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The thing that always makes me sad is that, when people are discussing the BDD (Big Damn Deaths), the talk focuses almost entirely around Wash, and Book hardly gets a mention.
(I'm guessing that 2 of the reasons for this are that a) Alan Tudyk is younger and more attractive than Ron Glass, and b) Wash's death is _much_ more sudden and unexpected)
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Actually, I think it's because the character of Wash is so much more loveable. Sorry to all the Book fans, and full respect to the actor, but I never got attached to Book. He was an enigma, we never got to know him, and I wasn't sure what his role was on the ship, other than to be an enigma and occasionally kneecap folk. The only reason I liked the character at all was because of the actor, who did a great job, but Book still fell flat for me. Whenever we talk about Book it tends to be "What the hell was up with him anyway? What was his past? Who is he, really?" and that is the extent. There is more to the character, but we never got to explore him. I'm sure he would have filled out as time went on, but as time didn't get to go on, he's left feeling rather two-dimensional. It's a shame, really, but them's the facts.
And yes, I cry every time.
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I agree with Rose.
Book remains a big question mark until the end.
He was never full revealed in the show. We know he has military connections, combat knowledge and a keen eye for criminal investigation.
He has training with weapons.
Although, does anyone think he is a LEGITIMATE preacher??? I got my votes on MAYBE.
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I can't watch that scene in the movie where Wash dies anymore. Every time I watch the movie I have to leave the room after the crash.
Book; I really enjoyed his character. I do not mind that he is an inigma. Kinda adds to his character. I was smad when he died as well. Although I do not think that even if he had lived we would have found out anymore about his past. he said it best when he and Mal were talking about the Operative. I believe he said "No I don't" when Mal was trying to figure out how he knew so much about how and Operative operated. The part of his life that made him turn to God was over. It was not a topic for discussion. I do not think it ever would have been.
There comes a time when you have to move on. when you do it is counter productive to relive the past. Book had moved on. Sure he had knowledge about how an Operative worked but as far as how he gained that knowledge, that was no ones business.
That is why I liked him. He moved on.
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As much as I loved Wash, I found Book to be a much more interesting character. Wash was Wash, I doubt he had much in the way of secrets - what you see is what you get. And what we saw was pretty cool, but there wasn't as much room for development with Wash as with Book.
Book was an enigma. Mysteriouse, lots of secrets and contradictions. Book's backstory would have been very, very interesting to see develop.
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Originally posted by Kelkhil:
I can't watch that scene in the movie where Wash dies anymore. Every time I watch the movie I have to leave the room after the crash.
I need some serious advice from my fellow Browncoats on this one. I have convinced my sister that she needs to see the BDM (yea! and it only took me a year), but I want to watch it with her and we both have a strict policy of NOT GIVING ANYTHING AWAY. However, I know what's coming with Wash and it's really hard for me to watch him be so heroic while knowing what his fate will be. I start to flinch and react way before Serenity even reaches the ground. How in the world will I manage to stifle all of that so I don't give away what will happen to him? She'll probably notice if I just close my eyes or suddenly need to go get some popcorn or something.
Any advice?
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Once again, we come to the short-lived nature of the show.......
I think that, had the show lasted, you would have seen Wash and Zoe's marraige hit some seriously rocky roads, and of course, we had to learn more about Book and his past (hell, even the X-files did an episode on the Cigarette Smoking Man's past.....and, being a Patriots fan, I still agree with him about buffalo). Book, well, his death was important, because it was a very important step to Mal finding his passion and faith, but Wash really was tragic, becuase he was just a case of lightning striking more than anything.
WE'RE GONNA CRASH? I DON'T WANNA CRASH!
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Originally posted by Storymark:
As much as I loved Wash, I found Book to be a much more interesting character. Wash was Wash, I doubt he had much in the way of secrets - what you see is what you get. And what we saw was pretty cool, but there wasn't as much room for development with Wash as with Book.
Book was an enigma. Mysterious, lots of secrets and contradictions. Book's backstory would have been very, very interesting to see develop.
See there? You just proved my point. All we care about is Book's past, not his character as we've seen thus far.
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