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POSTED BY: Fireflythemovie
UPDATED: Sunday, February 8, 2004 06:28
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Originally posted by IamJacksUsername:
, maybe they don't like its politics (like me),
Yeah. I was dicey about the whole "Reconstruction in Space with the Son's of the defeated South as the Heroes" thing too.
But, whatever the germinal thesis, the practical application was more obscure and less mired in the actual historical references than the notion of corporations and nation states sort of ultimatley melding into one and that being bad for folks like you and me. In a universe like that, I'd probably end up a Browncoat too.
Also, based on the actual ideals of the Confederacy versus those stated by Mal and the rest of Serenity's crew (except Jayne), I doubt the Greys would get along with Browns either.
The Alliance isn't the Union. It's just the closest analog. And not a very good one.
The idea that corporations, once they become large enough, are also inherently evil, is not just a notion comfined to scifi but, alas, is born out in RL as well.
On that score Whedon and Co. got it spot on.
The Price of Knowledge is Knowing.
Audrid Dax
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why bury it indeed? If someone hates the show, let them. Who are we to decide what peolpe can and cannot hate? Are we that petty that we want to detroy someones opinion? I would hope not, but something tells me i'm wrong.
meh
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We aren't trying to destroy someone's opinion or decide what people should or shouldn't hate. Just don't want that one review to be the first thing someone sees at IMDB.
"Didn't she shoot you one time?"
"Well yeah, she did a bit."
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The last user comment saved is the one that is displayed prominently to visitors to the Firefly page. They don't see the other comments unless they go looking for them.
No one is trying to take anyone's voice away, for heaven's sake. That person's post will stay there for prosperity. It's just a good-natured pride thing: Knock down the other team's flag and get ourselves back on top.
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How does a "May 9, 2003" comment stay at the top in imdb?
There's been 40+ posts since that one was posted and about some 100+ comments before it... Is there some sort of rating or trust system tot he reviewers? It doesn't seem like simply posting yet another comment will bury it. Maybe we need to figure out how that top post gets there before we brute force run around like "chickens with our heads cut off" fashion.
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Originally posted by Saffy:
The last user comment saved is the one that is displayed prominently to visitors to the Firefly page. They don't see the other comments unless they go looking for them.
No one is trying to take anyone's voice away, for heaven's sake. That person's post will stay there for prosperity. It's just a good-natured pride thing: Knock down the other team's flag and get ourselves back on top.
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Hey, and let's not forget, the South wasn't exactly 'evil'. I mean, if it was a show that made the Nazis seem like heros, that'd be one thing; they were evil.
Make no mistake, the Civil War wasn't a war to end slavery. The southerners just didn't like the direction the government was headed towards: a society where freedom is forgotten, where the ideas of our founding fathers are past. Looking at our nation today, it seems their fears were not wrong.
I'm not a southerner, by the by, nor am I one of those guys who drives a pick-up with a Rebel flag on the back. I just understand what they were fighting for, and why, and I can't say that they were wrong.
-Steve
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Went back to check that IMDB site and it seems a different review is posted.I looked through a bunch of the reviews posted and they all do seem pretty positive. I wonder if the site rotates through all the reviews and posts them randomly, because the one showing today is from Jan 8, and many have been posted since. Just a thought.
Crow
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Originally posted by Steve580:
Hey, and let's not forget, the South wasn't exactly 'evil'. I mean, if it was a show that made the Nazis seem like heros, that'd be one thing; they were evil.
I'm really intesested in what a society would have to do to qualify as evil in your mind.
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The southerners just didn't like the direction the government was headed towards: a society where freedom is forgotten, where the ideas of our founding fathers are past. Looking at our nation today, it seems their fears were not wrong.
That's one of the most frightening things I've ever read in my life.
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I'm not a southerner, by the by, nor am I one of those guys who drives a pick-up with a Rebel flag on the back. I just understand what they were fighting for, and why, and I can't say that they were wrong.
-Steve
Then you don't have a problem with a society which was entirely based upon and fueled by the generational exploitation of human beings as livestock and labor saving devices.
The Confederay WAS evil. Any way you slice it. It was antithetical to everything the United States was and, more importantly, IS supposed to stand for.
There is no difference between the Confederacy and the Nazi regime. Aside from being about a century apart (providing the Nazis with better tools) their world veiws were essentially the same.
And to describe them as fighting for "freedom" is to completely fail to grasp history. The Articles of Confederation alone refute your assessment.
The issue was "States Rights." What right was being contested? The "right" to own and trade, rape, kill and otherwise degrade human beings.
Yeah. Them poor Rebs was wicked misunderstood.
But not by me.
The Price of Knowledge is Knowing.
Audrid Dax
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
It doesn't seem like simply posting yet another comment will bury it. Maybe we need to figure out how that top post gets there before we brute force run around like "chickens with our heads cut off" fashion.
I posted there. I hope you're not implying that I act thoughtlessly. A good review is still good for Firefly, reguardless of the motivation.
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Redjack, there's no way I can say this without somehow being offensive to you, but I'll try to minimize it, ok ?
Nobody does evil just to do evil, all people think that what they are doing is the right thing to do, no matter what side of the battlefield they wind up on.
It would seriously help to actually study the history instead of blithely accepting the spoon-fed, heavily politically-correct version of it taught in most schools.
There wasn't a right or a wrong there, just two ways of life and ideals of government that clashed and turned to violence - and history, as we know it, was written by the winners, of COURSE they're going to demonize the losers, it's human nature.
PEOPLE are not evil, what people DO sometimes is.
And most of the folks who do "evil" things do not see it that way, and it might have even been the "right" thing to do in their worldview and historical context, they did not have the internet or an informed information society.
So, can we back off the hate spewing here, ok ?
-frem
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