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UPDATED: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:20
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Friday, September 22, 2006 5:09 AM

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Originally posted by ShinyTrinket:
Some people hate slash/smut/non-canon pairings/Mary Sueism/(add your pet peeve here), whatever. Just don't read it if you don't like it.



That's great advice. *g*


The only sad thing, though, is that there don't tend to be Mary-Sue warnings.

Pairings? Generally warned.
Slash or het? Generally warned.
Smut/Violence/Canon-bending? Generally warned.

But Mary-Sues? Never! Because every author who writes one tends to vehemently deny that this is the case. I've seen it dozens of times!

That is, I think, the reason why some people react sensitively to reading them. They stumble into it, unwarned.



In fact... Mary-Sue thread? We did one on slash, can we do one on them?

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Friday, September 22, 2006 12:25 PM

Okay, I feel exceptionally stupid for asking this, having read fic and written fic for years, but what the hell is a Mary Sue?? I've heard it mentioned but I've never really gotten what it meant.

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 2:03 AM

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The only sad thing, though, is that there don't tend to be Mary-Sue warnings.


I agree. I tried to warn folks reading my current story that I created an OC and I hoped she wasn't too much of an obnoxious Mary Sue...but I only put the warning on the first couple of chapters.

But the term 'Mary Sue' means different things to different folks. To some, it is the classic perfect OC who comes in to save the day - and to others it's ANY OC whatsoever. Nobody's gonna be happy with everything.

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:27 AM

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Originally posted by danniisupernova:
Okay, I feel exceptionally stupid for asking this, having read fic and written fic for years, but what the hell is a Mary Sue?? I've heard it mentioned but I've never really gotten what it meant.



If you pop over to the Blue Sun Room forum, we're talking about Mary Sues over there. http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=12&t=24151. The definition of a Mary Sue is wider than we're really discussing there. It can be any OC even in your own fictional universe if they're too marvellous, which is a problem when dealing with hero characters in a classic space opera 'verse. The key to not Mary Sueing seems to be making fully rounded characters, not just giving a superhero the odd unimportant flaw to make them "feel three-dimensional".

But I digress.

I've written slash in other fandoms and read far more. I've heard another slash author in another 'verse complain that she felt she "had" to write slash because she wanted to write about a relationship between two fully rounded characters (comes back to the Mary Sue-in-own-storyverse problem; in this instance the major female character in the story was a total Mary Sue, and the ones who weren't never got enough canon time to be more than a little pile of personality traits). Firefly doesn't have that problem, thank Joss.

When Firefly slash is well done, in other words when the relationship is properly justified by the author, I enjoy it - but I don't see myself trying to write it as I have trouble internally and unilaterally justifying most of the possible slash pairings in the sense of long-term relationships. Fuck buddy status between Inara and Kaylee and also Mal and Jayne, possibly, but nothing serious. I see the much-touted Simon/Mal dynamic as being permanently unrequited. This is just the way I think about the way they work in my head, and it doesn't stop me enjoying a good Simon/Mal.
Just my tuppence ha'porth.

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:20 AM

Can anyone point me to some good Kaylee/Inara slash?

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