The Boyfriend Poll

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DESKTOPHIPPIE

Friday, September 22, 2006 1:05 PM

Just to throw a total spanner in the works, I have to say I would have love to have seen Buffy and Xander fall in love at the end.

It's total projection on my part - I'm in love with Xander - but it's also because I would have liked to see her have a relationship with someone who had no special powers whatsoever. And you have to hand it to Xander, he was a lot more easygoing about being in a relationship with a stronger woman than Riley was. Also, since Xander loved Buffy at the beginning of the show (and always loved her as a friend) I would have liked to have seen it finish with them both falling for each other.

That being said, I quite liked all the relationships on the show. I don't think Spike was good for Buffy, but I do think he loved her and would have done anything for her. Riley did give her a taste of a normal relationship and I quite liked him. It's a pity the fans never warmed to him and his insecurities got in the way. And as for Angel... I still fight tears every time I watch Becoming Part II!

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RUGBUG

Friday, September 22, 2006 5:21 PM

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Anyway, I loved Spike, because I kinda viewed that as her most grown-up and real relationship. Just my two cents.

So does anyone care to expand on how that relationship with grown-up, real and/or healthy? For both Spike and Buffy.

Hot, tight little body. Hot, kinky sex. Hot accent. But save the very end of the show, that relationship was just bad news.

I admit that Riley was a bit cardboardy, but he still made me hurt in Season Five when Buffy kept pushing him away.

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, September 22, 2006 5:30 PM

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Anyway, I loved Spike, because I kinda viewed that as her most grown-up and real relationship. Just my two cents.

So does anyone care to expand on how that relationship with grown-up, real and/or healthy? For both Spike and Buffy.

Hot, tight little body. Hot, kinky sex. Hot accent. But save the very end of the show, that relationship was just bad news.

I admit that Riley was a bit cardboardy, but he still made me hurt in Season Five when Buffy kept pushing him away.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

Just because it isn't healthy doesn't mean it isn't real.

The relationship with Angel is a fantasy. Every young girls desire. Especially when it is a LOVE THAT CAN NOT BE.

The relationship with Riley wasn't real because Buffy was just going through the motions.

The relationship with Spike was certainly unhealthy and I was taken aback with the whole almost raped her thing. But that relationshiop resonated more with me than the others. There was real passion there - of both hate and love. And I disagree with your earlier statement that Buffy never loved him. I think she did and does. I just don't think she realized how much she had come to rely on and need him until it was too late. Is it the romantic love she has for Angel? No, but that doesn't make it less of a love.

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CHRISISALL

Friday, September 22, 2006 6:02 PM

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Is it the romantic love she has for Angel? No, but that doesn't make it less of a love.

Yo go, girl!

Uh-huh. Chrisisall

RUGBUG

Friday, September 22, 2006 6:07 PM

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Just because it isn't healthy doesn't mean it isn't real.

The relationship with Angel is a fantasy. Every young girls desire. Especially when it is a LOVE THAT CAN NOT BE.

Hrmmm, it only became fantasy after he lost his soul and there was no place for sex...or true happiness...which I think Angel could've experienced with Buffy even without the sex (I never liked the curse ending there). Before that, I think it was every bit as real and grown-up as any relationship. In fact, I think it was more so, because he left and she let him go. That is one mark of a true, grown-up relationship. Knowing that what you want is bad for you or the other person and then putting an end to it.

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The relationship with Riley wasn't real because Buffy was just going through the motions.

Well, yeah. And we didn't get to see what could've happened there because most people didn't like Riley and because Marc Blucas was supposedly getting film offers. So we end with Buffy realizing she shut him out and wanting to open up to him. Then he comes back and she sees what she could've had.

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The relationship with Spike was certainly unhealthy and I was taken aback with the whole almost raped her thing. There was real passion there - of both hate and love. And I disagree with your earlier statement that Buffy never loved him. I think she did and does. I just don't think she realized how much she had come to rely on and need him until it was too late. Is it the romantic love she has for Angel? No, but that doesn't make it less of a love.

I don't equate 'relying on' and 'needing' with love. And I think unconditional-ness (I need a better word here

) isn't necessarily a good thing. That's for pets. People need to evaluate how their behaviour and the behaviour of their SO is affecting them and those around them. If it's unhealthy, the relationship can't be good. And Spike even knew at that end that she didn't love him. She might have grown to love the vampire he'd become, but she didn't when the show ended.

But now that I've ranted away, I went back and read the OP and I should just shut up. Because we were asked who our favorite is, not who was the best.

Proceed with 'who's your favorite Buffy boyfriend?'

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DEEPGIRL187

Friday, September 22, 2006 11:52 PM

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But now that I've ranted away, I went back and read the OP and I should just shut up. Because we were asked who our favorite is, not who was the best. Proceed with 'who's your favorite Buffy boyfriend?'

It's okay, RugBug. I like the discourse that's going on here. And discussing who's our favorite boyfriend also means discussing who we think is best for Buffy. So by all means, proceed.

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ARCADIA

Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:19 PM

Wow... such a hard choice.

First there is Angel: He was supposed to be her true love, but he's all brooding and lurking, and really didn't have much of a character beyond that until he got his own show (unless he was evil).

The Riley: He was a good, nice guy. But, I think he created a whole lot of drama where it wasn't (what does he expect? They've barely been dating a year, if even, so the glowy phase of love is wearing off, Buffy has to deal with her mom's tumor the most horrible thing in her life, and he's all upset because they aren't close enough... blah).

Then Spike: He loved her unconditionally, but he really made her life worse during season six, beating her into staying when she tried to leave. Of course, he couldn't understand. He's evil and dead. And when he did, he let her go. And then he got a soul to get her back -- but only after almost raping her. Hmm.

So my choice is...

The Immortal, her boyfriend during "The Girl in Question" Angel season five. We've never met him, but Andrew says she's happy, and if he could make Darla and Dru glow so, he's at least super-good in bed, which really counts for something. :-)

Arcadia (aka Greyfable and/or Katie)
www.stillflying.net -- picking up Firefly were Joss left off. We will hold 'til he gets back.

CONSTANCE

Monday, October 9, 2006 12:22 PM

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I don't equate 'relying on' and 'needing' with love. And I think unconditional-ness (I need a better word here ) isn't necessarily a good thing. That's for pets.

Finally someone that agrees with me on the subject of unconditional love. Its not good, and its not very romantic. Its selfdestructive.

Riley was funny... wanting to stick the two Xanders in the replacement in seperate rooms and do experiments on them....

But he was maybe not the most exiting boyfriend tv- drama wise.

Constance

JWHEDONADDICT

Sunday, December 3, 2006 6:55 PM

My favorite was the stuff with Angel, and there's still a little part of me that wants her with him still, but mostly I'm ready for her to finally see Xander in that light.

I've got nothing against Spike, or even Riley, though.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:18 PM

Well, my personal favorite was Spike. As in, I would want him myself. He's funny, sexy, kind of a badass, has a very tender aspect to him, the list goes on. In terms of his relationship with Buffy, though, I never liked it. Maybe because I liked him so much, I would have much rather seen him with someone who was, you know, not a psycho bitch to him. She wasn't good to him, and there were a lot of times he wasn't good to her, either. He was good to her a lot more than she was good to him, though. Pretty sure she only showed him any kind of caring after he gained his soul, lost his mind, and then saved the world. Their whole dynamic was warped, as I think it was meant to be, but I still love Spike above almost any other character.
Riley was a little bland, but not utterly. There were moments that made me love Riley, and I mostly felt bad for him, even when he was being a royal fuck-up. Again, Buffy wasn't very good to him. I think she liked him, and clearly there was chemistry and all, but she took him mostly for granted. He was never, ever, a priority for her. Not saying he should have been at all times, but she could have thought of him a lot more than she did. Honestly, the look on his face when she talks about how she cried when her mom was in the hospital and it hits him like a ton of bricks that he never got to see any of it, or give her comfort, or be a part of her life, it just twists my guts every time, because I know how he feels. Granted, he handled it badly, but like I said I still just felt sorry for him.
Now, I personally don't think I'd want to be with Angel. He's sexy, yeah, but so brooding and tortured and angsty. He's at his most interesting (and sexy) when he's evil, and that is of course where you don't want to be. There's also the whole curse, but even without that... I dunno. But, in terms of the Buffy/Angel relationship specifically, he was the one who she was actually good to, and he was good to her. Get around the curse and all, and they'd be together in a second. So, while not my personal favorite, he's clearly hers.

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