Position reversal
POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Saturday, August 26, 2006 10:16
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I personally blame the Bush Administration.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I'm still trying to decide.
I'm no fan of George Allen by any stretch.
If this is a PC police set up then it's despicable, and it would be set up by allen's opponent and allen should win. If it's not a set up than allen is a pig and should lose.
Sorry to repeat myself, but Allen's opponent, recently turned Democrat Jim Webb has been accused of (and did) something similar in the Democratic Primary.
His campaign published a cartoon depicting his Jewish opponent with a big hooked nose and cash falling out of his pockets while accusing him of outsourcing jobs overseas for personal profit. Yet, there is no uproar over the Democrat being an anti-semite.
At the very least, both these guys have exploited or are exploiting the bigotry of their constituents to win votes, which makes them both douche bags...
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If that's true then - flush 'em both.
I did a little reading around. Apparently it is common practice for politicians to tailor their message and persona to the audience. For example, one might go in front of, say, a small all-white male group and do a little redneck good-old-boy routine. Then go in front of a larger male-female white audience and be an upstanding god-fearing gentleman. The go in front of an even larger audience and be a honorable statesman.
So videography is an important informational tool for voters. You don't want to know just what they are saying TO YOU, it's more important to know what they are saying in general.
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Originally posted by rue:
If that's true then - flush 'em both.
I did a little reading around. Apparently it is common practice for politicians to tailor their message and persona to the audience. For example, one might go in front of, say, a small all-white male group and do a little redneck good-old-boy routine. Then go in front of a larger male-female white audience and be an upstanding god-fearing gentleman. The go in front of an even larger audience and be a honorable statesman.
Yeah, I met Allen when he was running for the Senate the first time at VA Tech football game. His southern accent was noticeably thicker than it was in his "State of the Commonwealth" speeches.
Funny, how he picked up any southern accent at all, living in California and Chicago until he was 20 something...
Edit - There are actually a couple of distinct accents in VA. One is the traditional southern, the other is very much like a Canadian accent (aboot, hoose, etc...). If you pay attention, Senator Allen occasionally changes that, as well. It's fantastic. Always makes me smile.
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Rue,
In my digging I found out that Allen had a confederate flag in his room as a teenager, and though I had a soviet flag in my bedroom as a teen, and still do, so by itself it means nothing, but you add it all up and Allen starts growing pointed ears and a squiggly tail.
Sorry for blowing up earlier. The hhooo kay attitude, the witch-hunt-i-ness and as I said, all the alliance hugging, ie, pro-big govt. that was bouncing around numerous threads were getting to me. Pesky liberals.
Fellow,
I had heard other comments Webb's racism. I think it's time for a third party candidate. The problem is, third parties are horribly disorganize, and gold ring grabbing quixotic presidential campaigns eat up all their resources. If they were smart they'd have people waiting in the wings in ever race for just such an opportunity.
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Apparently it is common practice for politicians to tailor their message and persona to the audience. For example, one might go in front of, say, a small all-white male group and do a little redneck good-old-boy routine. Then go in front of a larger male-female white audience and be an upstanding god-fearing gentleman. The go in front of an even larger audience and be a honorable statesman.
Yeah, sure, but it's not acceptable. John McCain said he was talking to a redneck crowd and someone asked him what he thought the battleflag represented, and he said 'southern pride.' He talked about it later on a talk show, and said, he felt ashamed because it wasn't that he thought they would lynch him if he was honest and said 'slavery' but he said, he did it because he wanted their votes.
But there's a limit. If you go to the nazi crowd and say the jew is screwing you over for money, then that becomes your campaign position.
From a democratic standpoint, that's probably a position that one could take. David Duke, for example. But if it's your position, then it has to be your open position. You shouldn't be allowed to stealth your extreme views into office because that's misrepresentation. Come to think of it...
Now I don't think that Bush is a racist. But I'm sure he misled us on something, just can't put my finger on it...
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Additionally, his sister has written a book calling him a real scumbag. I havn't read it, but heard it mentioned on "Tucker" or "Hardball".
I don't know if she's on the level, but it can't be good sign when your own family hates you...
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