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It's a P-nis Bomb

POSTED BY: canttakesky
UPDATED: Friday, August 25, 2006 18:18
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Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:14 PM

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/24/fake.bomb.ap/index.html

CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Cook County prosecutors say a 29-year-old man traveling with his mother desperately didn't want her to know he'd packed a sexual aid for their trip to Turkey.

So he told security it was a bomb, officials said.

Madin Azad Amin, 29, of Skokie, Illinois, was stopped August 16 after guards found an object in his baggage that resembled a grenade, prosecutors said.

When officers asked him to identify it, Amin said it was a bomb, said Cook County Assistant State's Attorney Lorraine Scaduto.

He later told officials he'd lied about the item because his mother was nearby and he didn't want her to hear that it was part of a penis pump, Scaduto said.

He's been charged with felony disorderly conduct, said Andrew Conklin, a spokesman with the Cook County state's attorney's office.

Amin's attorney told a Cook County judge Wednesday that Amin whispered that the component was a "pump." The guard misunderstood, and thought he said "bomb," according to defense attorney Eileen O'Neill-Burke.

"He told her it's a pump," O'Neill-Burke said. "He's standing with his mother. Of course he's not going to shout this out."

However, Judge Gerald Winiecki decided there was sufficient evidence for the case to move forward after the female security guard testified that she heard Amin "clearly" say the word bomb.

Amin is charged with felony disorderly conduct, which could bring a three-year prison sentence if he's convicted. Amin is due back in court September 13

He told the Chicago Sun-Times after the hearing that security officials did not give him a chance to explain the misunderstanding, that he would never use the word "bomb" while going through a security checkpoint, and does not consider a penis pump an unusual object to own.

"It's normal," he said. "Half of America they use it."




All right. I gotta know. Does Madin Azad Amin speak with a frakking accent??? Would he be charged if his name wasn't Madin Azad Amin?

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:34 PM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
All right. I gotta know. Does Madin Azad Amin speak with a frakking accent??? Would he be charged if his name wasn't Madin Azad Amin?

God damn it. This is so messed up. Everyone knows that when you're in a highly emotional state you are likely to hear what you fear rather than what is said. Who hasn't been dead sure that someone you were arguing with "distinctly said" such & such, only to discover, after calming down a little, that they said no such thing.

This is what xenophobia looks like. It's a frickin' phobia. Nobody makes wise decisions when they're overcome with fear. If we are to conscience people being arrested out of fear and racial stereotyping then this kind of thing is only going to get more and more commonplace.

Old lady has a panic attack on a plane and they divert the flight. Why? 'Cause she had brown skin and didn't speak the dominant language.

Two passengers are expelled from a plane. Why? 'Cause they had brown skin and didn't speak the dominant language.

So, yeah, CTS, I'm betting Maden Azad Amin has dark skin and speaks with an accent.

And hey, was it a penis pump or not? If it was, why are we still talking about this?

The problem with xenophobia is not that it makes you suspicious of people who are different, but that it arises out of rage and blame focused at the group in question. If xenophobia just made you a little more careful around people with certain differences from yourself that would be fine, but it doesn't. Xenophobia inspires a level of vindictiveness and hysteria that leads to this guy being charged and arrested for an absurd crime. If xenophobia weren't a form of quasi-justified hate, this kid would have been released after the situation was explained.


HKCavalier

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:54 PM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/24/fake.bomb.ap/index.html


So he told security it was a bomb, officials said.

Madin Azad Amin, 29, of Skokie, Illinois, was stopped August 16 after guards found an object in his baggage that resembled a grenade, prosecutors said.

When officers asked him to identify it, Amin said it was a bomb, said Cook County Assistant State's Attorney Lorraine Scaduto.

He later told officials he'd lied about the item because his mother was nearby and he didn't want her to hear that it was part of a penis pump, Scaduto said.








This is why he is arrested. the main part of this is that "he later told officilas that he'd lied about the item". If like it says later in the article he wispered it was a pump because his mother was close by, then why did he admit to officials that he had lied? Which is the lie and which is the truth.
Sure I can understand not wanting mom to know what it was. But calling it a bomb? c'mon now people should know better than that right about now.

Now to bash the TSA -

If they have people operating the x-ray that cannot tell rubber from explosives and call for a search they are pathetic in Chi Town and need to be retrained! Not to mention the bag searcher I am sure has come accross alot of these before and if not would have had it pointed out by others that had. Not to mention it is a little rubber pump. Like a blood pressure pump. Come on now use some common sense here people.

I am also sure that the searcher was uncomfortable because of the name and color of skin which makes me sad. But some people will never change and will always profile those of that decent.

I know it drove me nuts when I worked for the TSA. I actually got a guy fired for a racial comment.
he was searching a bunch of camera equipment (Like 20 or 25 of the large Pelican Cases) When he was finished he walked by me and said that he needed to go was h the "Arib Funk" off his hands.
I looked over to my supervisor who heard it but was going to ignore it. I told him that something better be done about it or I was going to make sure something was done at a higher level. The next day the guy was fired.

I hate racisim! and profiling!



Kelkhil

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:10 PM

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Originally posted by Kelkhil:
This is why he is arrested. the main part of this is that "he later told officilas that he'd lied about the item".

Well, that's what they say he said.

Here's the scenario I'm imagining.

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Amin is asked what the thing is. He is embarrassed and says in a low voice, "Pomp" with an accent. The lady hears, "Bomb" and freaks out. They arrest him, blah blah.

He freaks out and says, "I said pomp so my modder wouldn't hear."

"You mean you told us it was a bomb so your mother wouldn't hear?"

"Yes, I don't want my modder to know."

"So you lied to us."

"No I no tell lie."

They write: Suspect lied.
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Of course, if he doesn't have an accent, my scenario falls apart. But judging from the quote, "Half of America they use it." I am guessing he has an accent. And really, it is sort of unbelievable that someone with a name like Madin Azad Amin would use the word "Bomb" in an airport security checkpoint--with his mom next to him.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:16 PM

I'm going to channel Pirate News for this one:

It's our new anti-semitic policy. Jews, who are actually europeans, don't set off the new semite-o-meter that was installed in American airports after the USA Hateriot Act. But Arabs, being 90% or so semitic, cause red lights to flash, and MKUltra Homeland SSecurity goose-step to the arrest. No trial, no counsel as they are sent off to Guantanamoloch Bay.

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:17 PM

That very well could be true and the only way to know for sure is travel back in time and be there. Their (and I mean both sides here) stories have probably changed about 12 times each at this point. They were both scared out of their minds for different reasons and it got out of hand.

But if it is true that he admitted that he lied about it so that his mom would not know what it was then he deserves to be in jail and will probably be spending alot more time there. It is still a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison to even mention "bomb" in an airport.

Maybe we will get to see an interview with him so that we can see if he has an accent. That would help alot. I can definatly see the misunderstanding with a thick accent.

Kelkhil

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
If xenophobia weren't a form of quasi-justified hate, this kid would have been released after the situation was explained.

Yep. It's the "justified" part that disturbs me. Overt racial/national origin or religious profiling has not been justified like this since the civil rights movement.

Can you imagine what would have happened if it had NOT been just a penis pump? We'd be at orange alert and going through yet another layer of airport security.

It really baffles my mind that someone at airport security would really expect someone coming through metal detectors and x-ray screening to say "bomb." I'd laugh if it weren't kinda tragic. I mean, if it were me, I'd just say, "Excuse me? How do you spell that?"

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

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Friday, August 25, 2006 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by Kelkhil:
If they have people operating the x-ray that cannot tell rubber from explosives and call for a search they are pathetic in Chi Town and need to be retrained! Not to mention the bag searcher I am sure has come accross alot of these before and if not would have had it pointed out by others that had. Not to mention it is a little rubber pump. Like a blood pressure pump. Come on now use some common sense here people.

The lot of them need to be retrained, and probably replaced with more skilled screeners.

Though I agree with you that, based on this one AP article, there appears to be probable cause in this case, because of the uncertainty of whether he lied. If he described the object as a "bomb," the screeners couldn't have known that he wasn't serious. And that is technically a bomb threat.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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RUE
Friday, August 25, 2006 3:12 AM

You p-nis will explode with pleasure! It's so good it should be illegal. Everyone will notice it!

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Friday, August 25, 2006 3:27 AM

Honestly, the guy was a fruitcake, he was carrying a johnson, and called it a bomb in an airport, he was nuts. Hook em book em cook em.

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