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UPDATED: Friday, September 1, 2006 00:38
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http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Massachusetts company said on Wednesday it had developed a way to make human embryonic stem cells without harming the original embryo, a finding it said could dispel ethical objections to promising medical research using such cells.
"It is possible to generate stem cells without destroying the embryo and without destroying its potential for life," said Dr. Robert Lanza, chief scientist at Advanced Cell Technology in Massachusetts.
--- Sorry Merck.
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I wonder what reason the nut jobs will find for not using stem cells now?
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Originally posted by citizen:
I wonder what reason the nut jobs will find for not using stem cells now?
Actually, I haven't heard of ANY one, nut jobs or otherwise, who are against using stem cells. The point of contention for the religious right is the use of 'embryonic' stem cells. Other than that one caviot, there's no problem.
And FYI, George Bush is the 1st President in US history to spend ANY $$ on stem cell research. Carter didn't, Clinton didn't. Neither spent one damn cent of Fed $$ for such research.
Just so ya know.
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Auraptor,
You have a point, and miss a point.
The point you have is that no one did a damn thing for these researchers, and it was going on when Carter was president. I remember when my sister, who has a chimeric bone disease, was told that "someday soon there would be something called stem cells."
The missed point is that the story is about embryonic stem cells, now a moot point. I don't know if Citizen missed this point, and you were just responding to him.
But I also feel that Merck is behind this, since every time the USGovt. doesn't pay a stem cell bill, Merck pays it in exchange for shares in the company. Since Merck is Bush's biggest supporter, (bigger lobby than oil) that they asked him to not fund stem cells. A very simple, direct line conspiracy theory, not one of these twelve dot hops.
I think Bush supports his monopoly friends at a great cost to corporate america as a whole. It's part of the part where I think he's a commie pinko traitor. IMHO. If it makes you feel any better, check out the thread where I was just much rougher on Clinton.
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STEM CELLS ARE PATTERNED AFTER EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS AND AS SUCH ARE POTENTIALLY LIFE-CREATING AND TO SUPRESS THAT POSSIBILITY IS SUPRESSING AND THEREFORE KILLING A LIFE!
That good enough for ya, Citizen?
Pardon me, I must read this Penthouse and rid myself of thousands of potential kids now Chrisisall
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Originally posted by citizen:
I wonder what reason the nut jobs will find for not using stem cells now?
Actually I kind of thought this would happen. I never understood why they couldn't harvest from unbilical cords either.
So here is my pro life, anti-science response to this latest development on this important issue:
Fine with me...if it don't hurt nobody (or any potential little nobody's out there) then go research all you can. Just no clones (except Jessica Alba, lets face it we all could use one of those).
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I wonder what reason the nut jobs will find for not using stem cells now?
Religion.
Prolly the next argument is something on the nature of messing with the divine providence of god, etc etc.
Meh, I don't have a whole lotta room to talk on that one, as I think nuclear fire is the 'fire of the gods' and we shouldn't be playin with that, most especially not weaponising it - but I don't go round ramming my beliefs down on other folks neither.
-Frem
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I hit the button ONCE, how could it double up?
Bleh, stupid glitch, how bout this for an idea to make double posts worthwhile...
THIS SPACE FOR RENT!
-Frem
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Dream:
Would it be possible to edit your link? Horizontal scrolling is no fun.
Quote:Like I said, I wonder what excuse they'll use now.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Actually, I haven't heard of ANY one, nut jobs or otherwise, who are against using stem cells. The point of contention for the religious right is the use of 'embryonic' stem cells. Other than that one caviot, there's no problem.
Quote:Neither did Lincoln, Kennedy, or Nixon, which is hardly surprising since the benefits of embryonic stem cell research only became apparent in the late 90's and it takes time to put legislation into place.
And FYI, George Bush is the 1st President in US history to spend ANY $$ on stem cell research. Carter didn't, Clinton didn't. Neither spent one damn cent of Fed $$ for such research.
Well this is an interesting bit of spin. Clinton's administration said they would fund embryonic stem cell research; the resulting legislation was halted by the Bush administration and later cut down to limit funding.
And FYI Bush is the only President to veto congress' decision to loosen restrictions of funding.
Just so ya know
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