River vs. Buffy, who do you think win?
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Well actually - tbh I think Buffy would win. I have several reasons for this.
1) Buffy has super-powers. We all know this - she is stronger by far than River, has the abiltity to heal quickly, and inherent righting abilities.
2) Buffy has had 7 yrs training at martial arts etc.etc. whereas River can have had AT MOST around 1 1/2 yrs (I think?).
3) Buffy has (i'm afraid to say) beaten enemies far greater than River inc. Glory - who was a God for one thing, the Mayor (who was a giant snake-thing at the time) Adam, who was very intelligent (in a deranged way). Mostly- just think of all the Big Bad's. Most of them could probably have killed River in the same position.
4) Joss Whedon says so. I think we have to go with him. Unless of course Jane is involved.
However - it wouldn't be an easy fight. I think River would do particularly well in the early stages of the fight - however i think Buffy can take more hits overall - and would win eventually.
Sorry River fans (I love her too!)
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Ah, the "who would win?" thread. A staple of geek forums everywhere :)
I agree that Buffy would have the edge since she can take more damage and can heal. River is a creature of extraordinary grace, and she has the I-can-kill-you-with-my-brain thing going for her, but at the end of the day she'll be the first to get tired and hurt.
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Given that River is just a human and Buffy has been endowed with super powers, given the above, Buffy would certainly win.
I definitely agree. A point on the psychic thing - We had a guy come in to do some martial arts consulting for our student film we're working on (No, it's not Firefly based - I didn't write the script.). He would tell you exactly what he was going to do, and then do it. I don't care what happened, there was no way of stopping him from doing that. If he wanted to kick my sorry butt, he could tell me every little move he would use, and then do it. Knowing about it before hand wouldn't help me a bit.
Personally, I was never a Buffy fan. But she would take River no problem.
Side note - unless there's already one going, I think I should start a thread to discuss River's psychic abilities. Let me know if there already is one.
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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
she has the I-can-kill-you-with-my-brain thing going for her
Are you sure about that?
I mean, the only thing that we actually know about this is that she said that to Jayne. Which was, in all likeliness, designed to scare him (which certainly worked
). This was, after all, when her and Simon found out about Jayne's dealings during Ariel.So, I wouldn't take this literally.
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Originally posted by amylisai:
Let's get if from Joss himself:
There was an interview with Australian television or something in which Joss was asked this question. He hemmed a little bit and said he'd been asked this before and here's what he thinks:
The fight would be well-matched but in the end Buffy would win because she has super-powers. Except then Jayne would hit her in the head with a frying pan.
That's exactly what he said :) I just don't know how to paste the source in here (if anyone has more time and wants to google it, go ahead). I thought he came up with a very nice compromise :)
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Yeah, in the Jossverse, something funny like that would always happen.
I would have to say tha Buffy would win in a fight because she could go for the long haul and is way stronger, physically, then River. It would probably go down like this, River would block all of Buffy's punches and kicks till she was worn out and then Buffy would put one well placed fist across her temple and that would be it. Then out of knowhere, Jayne, the Hero of Canton, hammer fists her on the top of the head.
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Okay, Buffy may have super human powers, but I would venture to say that River was super human her own self. Plus, we have yet to see her other abilities. If she told me she could kill me with her brain, I might tend to believe her. So there we have it, River would kill Buffy with her brain before a fight would even ensue.( I know what you are thinking, why didn't she just use her brain in the movie against all those reavers? The answer is that she was tired of sleeping and felt like doing something.)
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i think that willow v river would be a fairer fight (evil willow (the best and coolest from buffy)
and willows better than river
there are 2 girls in full metal panic tsr just like river with and one looks just like her
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i think that willow v river would be a fairer fight (evil willow (the best and coolest from buffy)
and willows better than river
there are 2 girls in full metal panic tsr just like river with and one looks just like her
i turned to anime and manga when i've been away from firefly fans for the last 2 months
"I'm not fit to be captin as soon as i am on land i can't even protect myself, if you were an enemy i would be dead by now i'm not that good with guns and stuff"
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I'd have to say that hand-to-hand it would be a toss-up. I think River has superior skills (by a wide margin) but Buffy has supernatural strength and toughness (instead of just extraordinary STR and CON). I think that River gets more hits in but Buffy wins by attrition.
On the other hand, if you toss a knife into the ring River wins hands down.
I think that everyone here has made a little bit too much of River's psychic powers. There is no actual proof of her powers being anything more than the ability to read minds and see little clips of the future, and the future seeing doesn't seem to be directed (i.e. she can't decide to see what Buffy is going to do, if she was lucky she might catch a glimpse but that's all). But that's just my opinion, the only person who knows is Joss (and he agrees with my assessment apparently).
P.S. when Jayne goes to hit Buffy, Angel goes to hit Jayne.
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River, hands down.
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