River vs. Buffy, who do you think win?
POSTED BY: fireflycv63
UPDATED: Friday, August 25, 2006 03:11
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Originally posted by MystrE:
...remember what happened to Count Dracula when he tried his powers vs. slayer powers?
Yeah, NOTHING!!
she was completely under his thrall, and in the end she couldn;t even kill him!
after she "dusted" him, he just reformed from the smokey stuff...
My point is that even when the human was lost the slayer power won, even in a contest against inhuman psycic powers.
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Originally posted by MystrE:
Plus the slayer powers should be able to stop River from doing to many mind tricks - remember what happened to Count Dracula when he tried his powers vs. slayer powers?
Those were psychic powers Dracula directed against buffy. We have no solid proof that River can direct a psychic attack on anyone save her statement "I can kill you with my brain" which cannot be proven.
All we know for certain about her is that she can observe the world in a different way. She's a reader.
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I think we've all missed a big one here. I agree that Buffy's physical/mystical abilities would put her at an advantage in those categories, but River has an advantage that would put her over the top. She's PSYCHIC remember? She'd know what's coming before it came. That give her the advantage.
River over Buffy, TKO.
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This reminds me of the classic comic book debate, "Who would win in a race, Superman or The Flash?"
There've been races and re-matches galore over the decades, usually manipulated by the writers to end in a draw. But the fan concensus is that The Flash is faster for relatively short distances ("Once around the Earth at the Equator -- 3,2,1, Go!"), while Superman's infinite stamina would give him the edge in a longer race ("Three laps around the Ringworld, no fair flying over Fist-of-God mountain.")
Buffy has superhuman strength and stamina; River has no physical superpowers, except (perhaps) an ability to tap her hysteric strength in the manner of certain martial arts masters or berzerker warriors. Otherwise she's no stronger than a normal human of her size, build, and training. She does seem to have an abnormally high level of stamina, but no more than that of an olympic-level athlete. Advantage Buffy.
However, River's ability to anticipate Buffy's moves combined with her (slightly) superior martial arts skills would give her an undeniable edge in the early phases of the fight; especially if River struck first. I think River would win if the battle was short and sweet; but if she didn't manage a quick knockout Buffy's augmented physical abilities would eventually swing the tide of battle her way.
Please note that if Buffy wasn't a highly trained warrior in her own right (and especially one used to fighting extrahuman opponents), her extra physical abilities wouldn't be enough to ensure her a win. Powerful as she is, Buffy isn't stronger than a roomful of reavers.
I could be wrong, of course. But either way, I'd pay $3.99 to see it on pay-per-view.


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It's hard to say, River is definitely more aware and probably more or at least equally as agile, but buffy is probably stronger and can probably take more of a beating.
It's really hard to say, it kinda depends on the situation, where they are, what's at stake, what weapons are available. Like if River has a gun, Buffy's dead lol.
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What about those sessions? Are we counting them here? Couse that doctor she's talking to dies in a very similar way to those who were killed by the blue hands in Ariel.
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Jack Bauer would win, seriously though, River Tam hands down no contest.
ROFLMAO!
Yeah, Jack always wins...

MHO, River. But, I'm not a Buffy fan in the least...Of course, as noted above, if the mastermind behind them says it would be the blonde, there you have it.
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When I read the question first, I thought - "River, hands down". In a one round bout, River would definitely beat the Buffster with graceful ease, but in a longer fight, it would be more difficult for her. Buffy's very resilient, and she wouldn't give up quickly. Also, she has the whole Slayer strength and skill thing going on. However, I reckon that River's psychic powers give her the upper hand. She'd still win, just a little slower.
Plus, there's no way Buffy could kick a guy in the head around a pole. River's more flexible. It's gonna have to be her.
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Look at it piece by piece.
granted, buffy is likely stronger due to her....enhancements.
Speed wont be much of a factor as River will alrdy know wot is comin.
Basic fighting styles. Buffy is a brawler compared to River. River has technique and grace which Buffy doesnt. Tech and grace always wins over power.
Mentality. Ok they both kill and hav dealt with it, but River just does it...no questiones asked. Buffy would likely hav doubts about kill a mantally ill child. One moment of doubt for her would be her death
And like i sed River is a killer, pure and simple. U watch her fightin the reavers and every blow and cut is to kill or incapacitate.
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Well River is tough, but Buffy can take a lot of pummeling with hardly a bruise. I think Buffy would outlast River and win in the end.
Besides, Buffy lasted 7 seasons even though she died (twice). And River, not so much.
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