Hollywood vs. Terrorism
POSTED BY: Skywalken
UPDATED: Monday, August 21, 2006 23:06
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Way back, I did say you OR OTHERS who claim it was all Bush's fault. So, my reply isn't JUST aimed at you.
I said the ACoEs bore MOST of the blame. Not 100%
Again, learn now to read, and stop being so paranoid. 
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:How to put this politely?
Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
Terrorism has not been greatly exaggerated to secure power. In fact it has weakened our president if anything.
WRONG!
It has been exaggerated and it has strengthened the Presidents agendas.
Exactly how has it "weakened" him?
911 made a great # of things possible or at least easier to pass through for this administration. It was a political blessing.
Talkin' to children Chrisisall
These so called "Great # of thingys", were the direct result of terrorism. They weren't needed or attempted to be passed before 911. If you believe terrorism is exaggerated you are a sorry, sorry sort. There is no hope for you. If the tactics taken by this administration are wrong in your mind, fine. But to brush off the threat of terrorism is political hog wash!. I could make a list of terrorist acts around the world in the last five years for you, however you wouldn't read them anyway. Children?
Kaneman may be on to something....isall. *Smiles*
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Originally posted by Skywalken:
Here is a picture of the ad:
I think I know about five of these people!
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Quote:So basically you were calling me a moron and ignorant for other peoples arguments not mine? I await your apology.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Way back, I did say you OR OTHERS who claim it was all Bush's fault. So, my reply isn't JUST aimed at you.
Quote:My god you reach bottom and then you drop lower. You over simplify the issue, I call you on it and you accuse me of being other people.
Again, learn now to read, and stop being so paranoid.
This is a discussion forum, not an AURaptor is god and anyone who disagrees with him is an idiot moron pinhead forum. Why do you even bother coming here? You're obviously not at all interested in any level of discussion whatsoever so why bother?
Again, learn to read, get a level of reading comprehension above that of a two year old and stop being so paranoid about your love of your messiah that you'll attack the voices in your head all over an open forum.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
If you believe terrorism is exaggerated you are a sorry, sorry sort. There is no hope for you. If the tactics taken by this administration are wrong in your mind, fine. But to brush off the threat of terrorism is political hog wash!. I could make a list of terrorist acts around the world in the last five years for you, however you wouldn't read them anyway. Children?
I've actually read them, and I would disagree with your assessment. I won a bet several months ago with a close friend of mine, who said the same thing you did. Tell you what, USB: You get that list of terrorist acts together. But before you post it, check something else out - the number of people worldwide struck and killed by lightning every year.
IIRC from the bet, the number of strikes from the 2003-2004 year (terrorist) was something like 2000 with a total death count of 650 (might have been 950 - been awhile since I looked this up). Oddly, the number of strikes from lightning were nearly identical - 2000/650. To be fair, this total did not count Iraq - nor should it, given that we can't separate sectarian violence and insurgent attacks from terror anyway (and if you could, call the WHouse, they'd like a word with you).
EDITED TO ADD: From Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning#Lightning_safety
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Nearly 2000 people per year in the world are injured by lightning strikes, and between 25 to 33 % of those struck die.
(or, in hard numbers, 500-700 of 2000)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterns_of_Global_Terrorism
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There were 208 acts of international terrorism in 2003, a slight increase from the most recently published figure of 198 attacks in 2002, and a 42 % drop from the level in 2001 of 355 attacks. A total of 625 persons were killed in the attacks of 2003
Sorry, but if you aren't wearing rubber boots and turning off the phone when it rains, USB, then you're underexaggerating this amazingly dangerous weather phenomenon.
The facts don't lie. Terror is overexaggerated. You're just as likely to be struck and killed by lightning. There's the numbers, now tell me again why I should be afraid?
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What does natural lightening strikes have to do with terrorism? One is a natural phenomenon created by a violent planet, The other is a man made brutality created by hate filled humans. And by the way 2000 terror strikes a year is what? Small potatoes.
I never said be afraid. You have nothing to worry about. Thanks to our vigilant and commited president.
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Quote:And you won't get hit by lightning because my ultra top secret weather machine keeps it in check.
Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
What does natural lightening strikes have to do with terrorism? One is a natural phenomenon created by a violent planet, The other is a man made brutality created by hate filled humans. And by the way 2000 terror strikes a year is what? Small potatoes.
I never said be afraid. You have nothing to worry about. Thanks to our vigilant and commited president.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Quote:Thank you, Chris. This is like the Ward Churchill discussion. It really shouldn’t be this difficult to get people to condemn terrorist groups. You don't have to be a Conservative Republican or a “Neo-Con” to condemn terrorist groups.
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:You agree with condemning Hezbollah AND Hamas?
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I think for the first time, I actually agree with Hollywood activism.
Cool.
Me too Chrisisall
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Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
What does natural lightening strikes have to do with terrorism? One is a natural phenomenon created by a violent planet, The other is a man made brutality created by hate filled humans. And by the way 2000 terror strikes a year is what? Small potatoes.
Now who's being childish? (answer: you)
You said that the terror threat wasn't an exaggerated threat. You said, and I quote,
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If you believe terrorism is exaggerated you are a sorry, sorry sort. There is no hope for you. If the tactics taken by this administration are wrong in your mind, fine. But to brush off the threat of terrorism is political hog wash!.
Are you afraid of lightning? Do you think we need to have mandatory storm laws? Do you think a crack team of operatives needs to come and check to see if everyone's home has a lightning rod? I seriously doubt you do.
According to your post though, anyone who isn't terrified by terror is a sorry sort personified by hogwash. I'm not misquoting, either, because there it is right there in your post. I'm hitting you with your own post; it was you who said to look up the numbers. I did. The same number of people get killed by lightning every year as get killed by terror attacks - so why is the big news splashed across your posts, as well as every news station, how bad terror is? Reality check, USB: The likelyhood of being killed in a terror attack in your lifetime is zero, just like the odds of being hit by lightning.
Therefore, I submit to you that the terror threat is exaggerated, and it's your ilk that exaggerates it. You said in your post that a dangerous threat was there, then said 2000 attacks was small potatoes. Which is it? A serious threat, or small potatoes?
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
It really shouldn’t be this difficult to get people to condemn terrorist groups. You don't have to be a Conservative Republican or a “Neo-Con” to condemn terrorist groups.
It's not difficult to get people to condemn terrorist groups. It's difficult to get people to agree to definitions and solutions. One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. That's the way the world works, sad to say.
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